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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3360 on: September 10, 2018, 07:59:PM »
They were knocked up out of their beds at about 11pm on the 3rd May 2007, by one or other members of the tapas 9 group and told that a child had gone missing from one of the other apartments on the block, and asked if they had noticed anything strange or unusual around the apartment block which might shed some light on what had taken place? Both women replied by saying that neither of them had seen anything unusual on that particular evening, and offered their help in searches which were already underway! Apparently these two ladies took part in the searching of nearby wasteland, and roads and footpaths without any success! They even looked inside Waste bins they came upon...

That same night, they claim to have seen Kate McCann in a very distraught state being comforted by a female member of the tapas 9 group who was almost certainly Fiona Payne, who were both outside apartment 5a...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3361 on: September 10, 2018, 08:12:PM »
On the following morning the two ladies spoke personally to Kate and Gerry McCann offering their sympathies, and at this time they took the opportunity to recount the rather odd behaviour of two blonde haired men who had been acting rather suspiciously on the veranda patio of an unoccupied apartment on the ground floor of block 5. The apartment in question was not the one next door to the McCanns (which as it turns out was the Oldfields apartment) but the next one on! The two women stayed in an apartment on the upper floor, which in official terms was the apartment above the one where the Oldfields were lodging (beneath them). The two blonde haired men were seen on the veranda patio of the unoccupied apartment, the next but one apartment away from where the McCanns were staying, or in other words, next door to the Payne's!

The women recounted how one of these men had excessively curly blonde hair, and that one of the two had been observed to walk down a set of steps in the direction of the thoroughfare footpath, look up and see the two ladies looking at him, then gone back up the same steps, to join the other blonde haired man on the patio of the unoccupied apartment! But, these observations had not taken place on the evening of Thursday, 3rd May 2007, nor on the previous evening (Wednesday, 2nd May 2007), but rather on the Tuesday Evening, the 1st May 2007, between 9.00pm and 10pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3362 on: September 10, 2018, 08:25:PM »
On the following morning the two ladies spoke personally to Kate and Gerry McCann offering their sympathies, and at this time they took the opportunity to recount the rather odd behaviour of two blonde haired men who had been acting rather suspiciously on the veranda patio of an unoccupied apartment on the ground floor of block 5. The apartment in question was not the one next door to the McCanns (which as it turns out was the Payne's apartment) but the next one on! The two women stayed in an apartment on the upper floor, which in layman's terms was the apartment above the one where the Payne's were lodging (beneath them). The two blonde haired men were seen on the veranda patio of the unoccupied apartment, the next but one apartment away from where the McCanns were staying, or in other words, next door to the Payne's!

The women recounted how one of these men had excessively curly blonde hair, and that one of the two had been observed to walk down a set of steps in the direction of the thoroughfare footpath, look up and see the two ladies looking at him, then gone back up the same steps, to join the other blonde haired man on the patio of the unoccupied apartment! But, these observations had not taken place on the evening of Thursday, 3rd May 2007, nor on the previous evening (Wednesday, 2nd May 2007), but rather on the Tuesday Evening, the 1st May 2007, between 9.00pm and 10pm...

As a result of what these two female holiday makers had seen, they contacted the Portuguese police expecting that somebody would take a witness statement from them, but no one contacted them at all!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3363 on: September 10, 2018, 08:29:PM »
After six months without an approach being made to these two female witnesses, the ladies decided to take matters into their own hands, and set about instigating contact with the police over these matters! Eventually, Leicestershire police contacted them and they made separate witness statements covering everything they had witnessed between 9.00pm and 10pm on each of the three evenings (1st, 2nd and 3rd May 2007) from the vantage point of their veranda...

These observations were very precisely reported, including the suspicious activities of the two blonde haired men  on the evening of Tuesday, 1st May 2007, who in their opinion was a stand out feature! On  Wednesday 2nd May 2007, the two ladies in question, recounted to Leicestershire police ( in separately obtained witness statements) the middle aged couple who had gone into the McCann Apartment for the purpose of trying to pacify the crying children (Sean and Madeleine), the entry into apartment 5a by this middle aged couple had occurred during the hour long period when the two women had been enjoying their hour long period of winding down, sipping a glass of whiskey, reflecting on the days activities, and musing  over the view before them, including a bird's eye view of the  patio, and garden of the McCanns apartment, the thoroughfare footpath,  the road and pavements alongside apartment 5a, and the tapas bar restaurant and pool of the Ocean Club at such a crucial period before at around 10pm, that night, and each night they had retired to bed!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3364 on: September 10, 2018, 08:54:PM »
After six months without an approach being made to these two female witnesses, the ladies decided to take matters into their own hands, and set about instigating contact with the police over these matters! Eventually, Leicestershire police contacted them and they made separate witness statements covering everything they had witnessed between 9.00pm and 10pm on each of the three evenings (1st, 2nd and 3rd May 2007) from the vantage point of their veranda...

These observations were very precisely reported, including the suspicious activities of the two blonde haired men  on the evening of Tuesday, 1st May 2007, who in their opinion was a stand out feature! On  Wednesday 2nd May 2007, the two ladies in question, recounted to Leicestershire police ( in separately obtained witness statements) the middle aged couple who had gone into the McCann Apartment for the purpose of trying to pacify the crying children (Sean and Madeleine), the entry into apartment 5a by this middle aged couple had occurred during the hour long period when the two women had been enjoying their hour long period of winding down, sipping a glass of whiskey, reflecting on the days activities, and musing  over the view before them, including a bird's eye view of the  patio, and garden of the McCanns apartment, the thoroughfare footpath,  the road and pavements alongside apartment 5a, and the tapas bar restaurant and pool of the Ocean Club at such a crucial period before at around 10pm, that night, and each night they had retired to bed!

Well..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3365 on: September 10, 2018, 08:56:PM »
Well..

My understanding of the events as observed by these two ladies, from the vantage point of their balcony, for a one hour long period, between 9.00am and 10am, on the evening of 3rd May 2097, beggars belief!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3366 on: September 11, 2018, 09:11:AM »
My understanding of the events as observed by these two ladies, from the vantage point of their balcony, for a one hour long period, between 9.00am and 10am, on the evening of 3rd May 2097, beggars belief!

Allow me to recite the facts as spoken to Leicestershire police by these two birds eye view witnesses, throughout the entire period, 9.00pm to 10pm, on Thursday, 3rd May 2007!

I can report to you all that neither of these two ladies saw Gerry McCann making his 9.05pm visit to the family apartment (5a), or his contact with Jez Wilkins in the street outside, or Jane Tanner's exit from the tapas bar restuarant at around 9.10pm. Neither did either of these two ladies see Russell O'Brien and Mathew Oldfield do their 9.30pm checks - they told Leicestershire police that they saw nobody coming or going back and forth between the tapas bar restaurant during the hour long period they sat on their apartment veranda between 9pm and about 10pm...

It should not be overlooked, that the Carpenters supposedly also left the tapas bar restaurant between 9.15pm  and 9.30pm, and that the two ladies sitting on their first floor apartment veranda did not see them..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3367 on: September 11, 2018, 09:36:AM »
So, Leicestershire police have the witness statements from these two eye witnesses on events as observed by them at the same time on three consecutive evenings (9pm - 10pm), Tuesday, 1st May 2007, Wednesday 2nd May 2007, and Thursday 3rd May 2007...

Everything points to the fact that on three consecutive evenings, that the McCann parents and the other parents in their group, had not been making regular half hourly checks on their children in their apartments. In particular, the only activity worthy of note, as observed by these two eye witnesses from the vantage point of their veranda which lasted an hour or so each of these three consecutive evenings, were (a) a couple of blonde haired men acting suspiciously on the patio veranda of an unoccupied apartment two apartments away on the ground floor of the McCanns block on Tuesday, 1st May 2007, followed by (b) confirmation that a middle aged couple had been seen entering the McCann Apartment (5a) in an effort to comfort crying children who had been left unsupervised, on Wednesday, 2nd May 2007, and that (c) on Thursday, 3rd May 2007, the parents and their friends had not been making any regular checks at their apartments at any stage between 9pm and 10pm, Gerry McCann had not made a 9.05pm check of apartment 5a, Jane Tanner had not been seen making her 9.10pm check of her apartment, the Carpenter couple had not been seen leaving the Ocean club or seen crossing the road on their way back to their apartment near the Murat Villa, and Russell O'Brien and Mathew Oldfield had not been seen making the 9.30pm check at apartment 5a, or their own apartments!

This evidence by these two eye witnesses (one is a barrister), seriously damages the McCann and their friends accounts about what really was going on that (Thursday, 3rd May 2007) evening, in particular, the movement of tapas group members back and forth between the tapas bar restaurant, and their apartments, especially any checks made to apartment 5a, by Gerry McCann, Russell O'Brien or Mathew Oldfield...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3368 on: September 11, 2018, 12:10:PM »
The checks which the McCanns and their friends which they claim were made at apartment 5a, between 9pm and 10pm, appear not to have taken place at all!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3369 on: September 11, 2018, 07:59:PM »
The checks which the McCanns and their friends which they claim were made at apartment 5a, between 9pm and 10pm, appear not to have taken place at all!

Now..

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3370 on: September 11, 2018, 08:00:PM »
Imagine the following scenario...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3371 on: September 11, 2018, 08:02:PM »
Imagine the following scenario...

The McCann parents and the other members of the tapas group have all been given immunity from prosecution in connection with any lie or dishonest fact they have introduced, or spoken about during the past 11 years or so...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3372 on: September 11, 2018, 08:04:PM »
The McCann parents and the other members of the tapas group have all been given immunity from prosecution in connection with any lie or dishonest fact they have introduced, or spoken about during the past 11 years or so...

Add to this, the fact that so called independent witnesses, for example, the Carpenters, and others, have had words put into their mouths, and that they too have been told that they will not be prosecuted for any false evidence, or lies they have told, or which has been attributed to them, as individuals, or collectively as a group?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3373 on: September 11, 2018, 08:08:PM »
Add to this, the fact that so called independent witnesses, for example, the Carpenters, and others, have had words put into their mouths, and that they too have been told that they will not be prosecuted for any false evidence, or lies they have told, or which has been attributed to them, as individuals, or collectively as a group?

What 'if' I was to throw into the argument, that the two female eye witnesses, who sat on their veranda each night of their month long stay in an apartment in block 5, between 9pm and 10pm, were infact, the middle aged couple that did enter apartment 5a (the McCann Apartment), on the evening of Wednesday, 2nd May 2007?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3374 on: September 11, 2018, 08:09:PM »
What, 'if'...
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