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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2895 on: May 26, 2017, 10:51:PM »
Here is the address of the derelict building where I believe GM concealed Maddie's body :-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2896 on: May 26, 2017, 10:56:PM »
This derelict building was converted iently located directly across the street from the local church where the MCCanns sought refuge at night! I have an overwhelmingly feeling that Maddie's remains were kept in the aforementioned building, and that either her clothing or parts of her remains were buried there in the rear garden, until much later when the parents the used a hire car that was possibly rented from a car hire shop in the same street, only a stone's throw away from the church and the aforementioned derelict building!

I have marked the general location in the garden of the derelict building where the ground had been disturbed and something buried there in red in the following Google earth image!!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2897 on: May 26, 2017, 11:04:PM »
In the following illustration, I have marked the location of the derelict building, the church and the car hire shop in red, each location joined together in a green line to demonstrate close proximity of these three key sites where the parents are known or believed to have been active!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2898 on: May 26, 2017, 11:05:PM »
The longer a death or a disappearance goes unexplained the more likely only one person or a small clique of people know the truth. I'm inclined to believe Maddie was abducted by the man seen loitering around the apartment complex on the night, who could have whisked Maddie quickly away to his home only a hundred yards away and dispose of the body shortly thereafter. I cannot mention his name due to libel laws but everyone knows to whom I'm alluding.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2899 on: May 26, 2017, 11:22:PM »
The longer a death or a disappearance goes unexplained the more likely only one person or a small clique of people know the truth. I'm inclined to believe Maddie was abducted by the man seen loitering around the apartment complex on the night, who could have whisked Maddie quickly away to his home only a hundred yards away and dispose of the body shortly thereafter. I cannot mention his name due to libel laws but everyone knows to whom I'm alluding.

My monies on the parents with help from others in the group - their statements don't tally, they are hiding something! You can sense it by observing their body language and facial expressions...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2900 on: May 27, 2017, 09:41:AM »
I am also worried about the explanations given by David Payne ( Murat, lookalike), Russel O'Brian and Matt Oldfields account involving the sailing accident at the beach that evening and the journey they made back up the hill to their apartments! We hear that David Payne went to see Kate in apartment 5a and he purports to see Maddie still alive at that time, before he left to return to the tennis courts and speak to GM (it doesn't sound right to me)! Where did Russell and Matt go?

Something strange had been going on in my opinion,...

It's possible that Maddie was already dead by this stage, in my opinion...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2901 on: May 28, 2017, 10:34:AM »
I somehow can't imagine Kate taking all three of her children back to apartment 5a all by herself, whilst GM goes to the tennis courts, and Payne, O'Brien and Oldfield frolic with death at the beach!

Somethings not quite right here!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2902 on: May 28, 2017, 07:13:PM »
I somehow can't imagine Kate taking all three of her children back to apartment 5a all by herself, whilst GM goes to the tennis courts, and Payne, O'Brien and Oldfield frolic with death at the beach!

Somethings not quite right here!
I always had the impression Kate had care of the children: it was she who wanted them in the first place through IVF and sometimes this does make an individual overcompensate, not wishing her children to become a burden to their partner. I have no evidence of this and I might be being unfair to GM.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2903 on: June 07, 2017, 03:01:PM »
I always had the impression Kate had care of the children: it was she who wanted them in the first place through IVF and sometimes this does make an individual overcompensate, not wishing her children to become a burden to their partner. I have no evidence of this and I might be being unfair to GM.

There's something just not quite right with David Paynes account from tea onward, he shows too much concern for Kate, and appears to go out of his way, to tell the world that he saw all three of the McCann children, all playing happily inside apartment 5a, before he ran off back to the tennis courts to play a game of tennis with GM and others! Makes me suspect Maddie may have already died by this stage!It's not just that, but apparently on the way to the tapas bar that evening, Payne went and placed his ear at the McCanns childrens bedroom window! Why?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2904 on: June 07, 2017, 03:06:PM »
There's something just not quite right with David Paynes account from tea onward, he shows too much concern for Kate, and appears to go out of his way, to tell the world that he saw all three of the McCann children, all playing happily inside apartment 5a, before he ran off back to the tennis courts to play a game of tennis with GM and others! Makes me suspect Maddie may have already died by this stage!It's not just that, but apparently on the way to the tapas bar that evening, Payne went and placed his ear at the McCanns childrens bedroom window! Why?

A part from the fact that he could be mistaken for Robert Murat, it is also worrying in my mind, that he should be one of the two who volunteered to check on the McCann children at 9.30am, yet didn't return to the tapas bar!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2905 on: June 07, 2017, 03:14:PM »
My gut feeling is that David Payne helped the McCanns cover up Maddies death and disappearance! I do not think he was alone in having something to do with it, either - I think the near tragedy with the boat after tea, and the mickey taking of the victim at the supper table had something to do with it as well...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2906 on: June 08, 2017, 01:34:PM »
My gut feeling is that David Payne helped the McCanns cover up Maddies death and disappearance! I do not think he was alone in having something to do with it, either - I think the near tragedy with the boat after tea, and the mickey taking of the victim at the supper table had something to do with it as well...

Absolutely no way would they have been able to sit at that table if there daughter was already dead and they knew. No way

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2907 on: June 11, 2017, 09:41:PM »
Absolutely no way would they have been able to sit at that table if there daughter was already dead and they knew. No way

That's not what the Portuguese police thought!

And, I tend to believe their approach, than the story that somebody took her out of apartment 5a, in between checks by the tapas gang!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2908 on: September 16, 2017, 10:49:AM »
Last Nights Dream (15th/16th September 2017):-

I was in Portugal somewhere on the street inbetween apartment 5A where Maddie went missing from, and the other apartment block across the street where My wife and I stayed during our own visit there in 2010. The street was dimly lit and I saw a shadowy figure, or figures walking downhill toward the hotel reception entrance. At first I could not tell whether or not there was actually one or two persons because from my vantage point and I have no idea why but I appeared to be concealed either in some bushes or shrubbery, and I remember thinking in my dream that I was there to witness what had taken place! Anyway, the figure or figures never reached the hotel reception before the sighting repeated itself twice more! On the second occasion I realised that it was two adult persons, but I wasn't quite sure whether they were both men, or two women, or a man and a woman! On the third re-run of this part of my dream, it became perfectly clear that the two figures were women one of whom was holding the hand of a little girl who was walking slightly behind the first woman followed by the second woman! In this section of my dream the two women and the girl who by now for some reason I believed to have been Madeiline McCann, continued walking downhill on the footpath on the same side as the aforementioned hotel reception entrance and past the hotel reception entrance going down in the general direction of the supermarket. (I had no idea which part of Apartment 5A the two women and the girl had left the apartment, they had gone past my position in the bushes on the opposite side of the street before I saw them)! Then this section of my dream immediately merged into me somehow being in front of this entourage and observing these two women approaching the supermarket and handing the child over to a man who picked the girl up in his arms and carried her off! In this sequence of my dream, I was shouting at the man to 'stop right there for a moment' and at the same time the two women turned around and they started walking back up the street toward the hotel reception! I shouted after them both, 'Hey, hold on a minute, I want a word with you two', but neither the man they handed the child over too, or the two women in question I had been observing took any notice of what I was telling them to do, or asking them. It was as if I wasn't there, they couldn't see me, or hear me! I can't explain why or how but for some reason I found myself a head of the two women who were going back up the street, as they approached me on the pavement, I put my right arm out with my left hand raised and I said to them both, ' Stop, stop, Hold on a moment, I need to speak to you both', but the women did not see me or hear me, and it was if they passed right through me and I found my self behind them both. I ran back after them but although I was running they both appeared to be getting further and further a head of me, It was as if I was on one of those exercise treadmills and was simply marking time! Then just as this sequence in my dream was coming to an end I noticed something very odd. One of the two women entered the hotel reception entrance whilst the other woman carried on walking up the road. This second woman got right to the top of the street at the junction and turned left out of sight with apartment 5A on her left! At this point my dream became merged with me somehow walking alongside the man carrying off the girl. We were as it were shoulder to shoulder walking down a street, he was carrying the girl whose body was held in such a way that it looked like the child was sleeping! The man was slightly taller than me and he was carrying the child with the childs head on the far side of his body so I never got to see the childs face. We simply were just walking down a street in the general direction of the sea! We never saw anybody else there was only the man carrying the child and myself! At this stage in the proceedings I had no description of either the two aforementioned women, the child, or the man! I know this seems rather strange in view of me spending so much time following, pursuing, and try to talk to these people, but it were as if they were silhoetted versions of women, the child and the man! I found my self knowing that the man carrying the child did not realise that I was there alongside him, and the next sequence in my dream merged with us being down at the waters edge by the sea. There were some tall shrubs and a few small fishermans boats laid on sand, some of these small boats were overturned! There then appeared a second man who had one of these small boats floating on the eddge of the tide and the man carrying the child walked toward him with me in tow! The second man helped the first man carrying the child, into the boat! Then a rather astonishing thing occurred, because as I was preparing to also board this small boat, the second man said to me, 'No, not you, you must go back to the hotel'. When the second man spoke to me in my dream, the first man did not appear to hear him talking to me. I responded, ' hang on a moment', I said, 'Whats going on here'? The second man responded rather angrily, ' go back to the hotel, you will be missed and it will look suspicious'! As I was trying to fathom out what he had said I found myself alone on the sea shore, the boat with the two men and the child were nowhere in sight, and I did not see them sail off, but that smaall boat was no longer on that section of the beach! Then my dream continued, I was hovering above a piece of ground covered with clumps of grass and small shrubs! It was daylight for some reason. It was if I was a bird of prey hovering above the landscape below! I seemed to be looking down at this piece of land for ages not knowing why I was doing so! Then water started to erupt up through the ground like a spring and the whole area became flooded shallowly! Then, without any clue as to why what happened next happened, I was being detained by armed men who fired two darts at and into my body! I was no longer on the sea shore by this stage and cannot explain how I was somewhere else, but I was in some historical street which reminded me in that moment of being somewhere in Malta! In this sequence of my dream, there were a group of about half a dozen men dressed in black walking hesitantly toward me. After the shots struct me I fell to the cobbled ground and was quickly surounded by several of these men, one of whom started talking about me, giving me the impression that I should not have been able to hear what he was saying because I had been shot with tranquilizer darts. He is saying to the others hovering around me, 'that's him, we have got him', he says, 'Thats him off the streets for the rest of his life'! I remember thinking to myself, 'What is this bloke on about, I haven't done anything'! I thought they had made some sort of a mistake and picked on the wrong man, and when I tried asking the man what had I done wrong, he couldn't hear a word I was trying to say! My dream then merged me into an old dungeon type place, where there were two other men being detained like me! I can't describe what either of these men looked like, it felt weird and wonderful that they could speak to me and that I could hear what they were saying, and vice versa, but what they had to tell me filled my heart with dred - These men had been detained indefinately by the Knights Templar, and that I (like them) would spend the rest of my natural life detained in custody at the disposal of the knights to do with us whatever was their choosing! The next thing we are escaping, I don't know how we got out of there but we are running through historic streets being pursued by our captures! I was very frightened of being caught and kept thinking to myself that I did n't want to be hit by any of those tranquilizer darts they had used on me before! I was then hiding, in some old ruins! Every now and then I saw small groups of men who I presumed rightly or wrongly were the knights templar out looking for me, and the other two escapees! Then out of the blue, the streets I was observing became full of people, and I saw a group of four adults being accompanied by a little girl who I immediately recognised as Madeiline McCann! As soon as I saw and recognised her I started to shout and bellow at the top of my voice, 'Its Maddie, its Maddie', I shouted, 'Maddie is still alive'! I then found myself captured by the knights templar and I was back in my dungeon being interrogated about my escape earlier and what I had witnessed involving my sighting of Madeleine McCann...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2909 on: September 16, 2017, 11:06:AM »
Last Nights Dream (15th/16th September 2017):-

I was in Portugal somewhere on the street inbetween apartment 5A where Maddie went missing from, and the other apartment block across the street where My wife and I stayed during our own visit there in 2010. The street was dimly lit and I saw a shadowy figure, or figures walking downhill toward the hotel reception entrance. At first I could not tell whether or not there was actually one or two persons because from my vantage point and I have no idea why but I appeared to be concealed either in some bushes or shrubbery, and I remember thinking in my dream that I was there to witness what had taken place! Anyway, the figure or figures never reached the hotel reception before the sighting repeated itself twice more! On the second occasion I realised that it was two adult persons, but I wasn't quite sure whether they were both men, or two women, or a man and a woman! On the third re-run of this part of my dream, it became perfectly clear that the two figures were women one of whom was holding the hand of a little girl who was walking slightly behind the first woman followed by the second woman! In this section of my dream the two women and the girl who by now for some reason I believed to have been Madeiline McCann, continued walking downhill on the footpath on the same side as the aforementioned hotel reception entrance and past the hotel reception entrance going down in the general direction of the supermarket. (I had no idea which part of Apartment 5A the two women and the girl had left the apartment, they had gone past my position in the bushes on the opposite side of the street before I saw them)! Then this section of my dream immediately merged into me somehow being in front of this entourage and observing these two women approaching the supermarket and handing the child over to a man who picked the girl up in his arms and carried her off! In this sequence of my dream, I was shouting at the man to 'stop right there for a moment' and at the same time the two women turned around and they started walking back up the street toward the hotel reception! I shouted after them both, 'Hey, hold on a minute, I want a word with you two', but neither the man they handed the child over too, or the two women in question I had been observing took any notice of what I was telling them to do, or asking them. It was as if I wasn't there, they couldn't see me, or hear me! I can't explain why or how but for some reason I found myself a head of the two women who were going back up the street, as they approached me on the pavement, I put my right arm out with my left hand raised and I said to them both, ' Stop, stop, Hold on a moment, I need to speak to you both', but the women did not see me or hear me, and it was if they passed right through me and I found my self behind them both. I ran back after them but although I was running they both appeared to be getting further and further a head of me, It was as if I was on one of those exercise treadmills and was simply marking time! Then just as this sequence in my dream was coming to an end I noticed something very odd. One of the two women entered the hotel reception entrance whilst the other woman carried on walking up the road. This second woman got right to the top of the street at the junction and turned left out of sight with apartment 5A on her left! At this point my dream became merged with me somehow walking alongside the man carrying off the girl. We were as it were shoulder to shoulder walking down a street, he was carrying the girl whose body was held in such a way that it looked like the child was sleeping! The man was slightly taller than me and he was carrying the child with the childs head on the far side of his body so I never got to see the childs face. We simply were just walking down a street in the general direction of the sea! We never saw anybody else there was only the man carrying the child and myself! At this stage in the proceedings I had no description of either the two aforementioned women, the child, or the man! I know this seems rather strange in view of me spending so much time following, pursuing, and try to talk to these people, but it were as if they were silhoetted versions of women, the child and the man! I found my self knowing that the man carrying the child did not realise that I was there alongside him, and the next sequence in my dream merged with us being down at the waters edge by the sea. There were some tall shrubs and a few small fishermans boats laid on sand, some of these small boats were overturned! There then appeared a second man who had one of these small boats floating on the eddge of the tide and the man carrying the child walked toward him with me in tow! The second man helped the first man carrying the child, into the boat! Then a rather astonishing thing occurred, because as I was preparing to also board this small boat, the second man said to me, 'No, not you, you must go back to the hotel'. When the second man spoke to me in my dream, the first man did not appear to hear him talking to me. I responded, ' hang on a moment', I said, 'Whats going on here'? The second man responded rather angrily, ' go back to the hotel, you will be missed and it will look suspicious'! As I was trying to fathom out what he had said I found myself alone on the sea shore, the boat with the two men and the child were nowhere in sight, and I did not see them sail off, but that smaall boat was no longer on that section of the beach! Then my dream continued, I was hovering above a piece of ground covered with clumps of grass and small shrubs! It was daylight for some reason. It was if I was a bird of prey hovering above the landscape below! I seemed to be looking down at this piece of land for ages not knowing why I was doing so! Then water started to erupt up through the ground like a spring and the whole area became flooded shallowly! Then, without any clue as to why what happened next happened, I was being detained by armed men who fired two darts at and into my body! I was no longer on the sea shore by this stage and cannot explain how I was somewhere else, but I was in some historical street which reminded me in that moment of being somewhere in Malta! In this sequence of my dream, there were a group of about half a dozen men dressed in black walking hesitantly toward me. After the shots struct me I fell to the cobbled ground and was quickly surounded by several of these men, one of whom started talking about me, giving me the impression that I should not have been able to hear what he was saying because I had been shot with tranquilizer darts. He is saying to the others hovering around me, 'that's him, we have got him', he says, 'Thats him off the streets for the rest of his life'! I remember thinking to myself, 'What is this bloke on about, I haven't done anything'! I thought they had made some sort of a mistake and picked on the wrong man, and when I tried asking the man what had I done wrong, he couldn't hear a word I was trying to say! My dream then merged me into an old dungeon type place, where there were two other men being detained like me! I can't describe what either of these men looked like, it felt weird and wonderful that they could speak to me and that I could hear what they were saying, and vice versa, but what they had to tell me filled my heart with dred - These men had been detained indefinately by the Knights Templar, and that I (like them) would spend the rest of my natural life detained in custody at the disposal of the knights to do with us whatever was their choosing! The next thing we are escaping, I don't know how we got out of there but we are running through historic streets being pursued by our captures! I was very frightened of being caught and kept thinking to myself that I did n't want to be hit by any of those tranquilizer darts they had used on me before! I was then hiding, in some old ruins! Every now and then I saw small groups of men who I presumed rightly or wrongly were the knights templar out looking for me, and the other two escapees! Then out of the blue, the streets I was observing became full of people, and I saw a group of four adults being accompanied by a little girl who I immediately recognised as Madeiline McCann! As soon as I saw and recognised her I started to shout and bellow at the top of my voice, 'Its Maddie, its Maddie', I shouted, 'Maddie is still alive'! I then found myself captured by the knights templar and I was back in my dungeon being interrogated about my escape earlier and what I had witnessed involving my sighting of Madeleine McCann...

During this interrogation of me by the knights templar they told me that I 'would never ever be released', and that 'I was going to die' in prison! Then for some inexplicable reason and I do not know how or why but I was telling the knights templer custodians that I knew the secret behind the Madeleine McCann disaapearence! I knew for example, that she was taken on behalf of a wealthy couple, both women one by the Christian name 'Veronica', and the other was named  'Regina'! I somehow knew that they lived primarily in Malta! I also knew, but I didn't know how I knew, that the Pope in 'Rome' was also privvy to what had taken place! The knights templar weren't pleased with what I was saying to them! Then my dream merged into me somehow seeing Maddie playing with other children in the cobbled streets of Malta, the colour of her hair had been changed, it was a dark brown colour and frizzy looking. I recognised her straight away despite an attempt to disguise her appearance! It was whilst I was trying to capture the eye of the child to look for the unsual mark in one of her iris, that the woman named 'Veronica' suddenly cropped up in my dream, shouting at me to go away and to forget what I had seen and knew! At this juncture I woke from my dream...
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