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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2475 on: November 27, 2014, 05:27:PM »
We also learn, that the cadaver and blood dogs got a reaction inside a wardrobe in the parents bedroom...

So, body could have been (a) inside a wardrobe in the parents bedroom, (b) behind the sofa in the lounge, and (c) amongst the shrubbery in the poolside garden beneath the patio of apartment 5A...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2476 on: November 27, 2014, 05:45:PM »
We also learn, that the cadaver and blood dogs got a reaction inside a wardrobe in the parents bedroom...

So, body could have been (a) inside a wardrobe in the parents bedroom, (b) behind the sofa in the lounge, and (c) amongst the shrubbery in the poolside garden beneath the patio of apartment 5A...

The above is a possible sequence of events, (a), (b), followed by (c)...

If this is what did happen, then we somehow have to fit everything in, to the time slots involving the following nominal periods:-

Period (1) - between Gerry McCann playing tennis, and the McCann parents leaving apartment 5A at about 8.30pm to go to the tapas bar restuarant for evening meal and drinks...

Period (2) - between the McCann parents leaving to go to the tapas bar at 8.30pm, and 9.05pm, when Gerry McCann left the tapas bar, and 9.30pm when two group members left the tapas bar to go check on the McCann children in apartment A...

Period (3) - between when the two group members left the tapas bar at around 9.30pm, and 10pm, when Kate McCann went to the family apartment to make a personal check on her children, only to discover Maddie to be gone...

There are other important periods, which I shall outline in due course...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2477 on: November 27, 2014, 05:52:PM »
I believe it is possible for the body to have been concealed in the aforementioned locations (a), (b), and (c), which corresponds with the periods, (1), (2) and (3), as set out in my example.  If this is true, then the parents and other members of the group must have already known that Maddie had died, or that she was critically ill,  before the parents left for the tapas bar at 8.30pm...

I have a good reason for believing this to be true...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2478 on: November 27, 2014, 05:56:PM »
I do not believe that any would be peodaphile, or opportunist abducter, would have concealed Maddies body in locations, (a), (b), and (c) in the process of her disappearance. Furthermore, why would any abducter want to steal a dead child? It just doesn't make sense, for anyone to abduct a dead child...
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 05:58:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2479 on: November 27, 2014, 06:05:PM »
I have now had ample time to review all the circumstances of the case, and I have come to the conclusion that Maddie was no longer inside apartment 5A, by the time Gerry McCann returned to the tapas bar after his visit to apartment 5A at 9.05pm, I have good reason to suspect that by the time the two group members left the tapas bar to go check on the McCann children at 9.30pm, that Maddies body could already have been moved from behind the sofa in the lounge, into the shrubbery of the poolside garden, beneath the patio of apartment 5A...
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 06:07:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2480 on: November 27, 2014, 06:12:PM »
In turn, I believe that between the time (8.30pm) when the parens left apartment 5A to go to the tapas bar, and the time Gerry McCann left the tapas bar (9.05pm) and arrived inside apartment 5A, that Maddie had been concealed behind the aforementioned sofa, where the parents, or one or other of the group had put her...
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 06:13:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2481 on: November 27, 2014, 06:15:PM »
Prior to this, the body had been hidden inside the wardrobe of the parents bedroom...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2482 on: November 27, 2014, 06:32:PM »
Now, there is only one member of the so called tapas group who had opportunity to be involved in the killing of Maddie, inside apartment 5A, displacement from the bedroom wardrobe to behind the sofa, and the removal of the body from behind the sofa to amongst the shrubbery of the poolside garden beneath the patio of apartment 5A, and that person is non other than the one and only (Robert Murat look alike) David Payne. He had the opportunities to be involved in displacing the body inside apartment 5A, to outside in the garden, and elsewhere - something prevents me from saying with complete certainty that he acted alone in this enterprise...

 Details to follow:-
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 06:55:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2483 on: November 27, 2014, 07:55:PM »
After the McCanns left their apartment (5A) at around 8.30pm, David Payne walked in the wrong direction after leaving his own apartment door, and paused outside the bedroom window behind where the McCann children normally would have been sleeping. What an odd thing to do, at that time...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2484 on: November 27, 2014, 08:10:PM »
After the McCanns left their apartment (5A) at around 8.30pm, David Payne walked in the wrong direction after leaving his own apartment door, and paused outside the bedroom window behind where the McCann children normally would have been sleeping. What an odd thing to do, at that time...

Payne goes to the tapas bar, only for Gerry McCann to leave at around 9.05pm, after Payne apparently told him that he had been listening outside the childrens bedroom window. Gerry was not happy about being told this, and rushed off back to apartment 5A. Did Payne intimate to Gerry that he knew what might have been happening, through listening through the thin wall between thier respective apartments?  Earlier that same evening Payne had been listening with his ear against the wall at the childrens bath time...
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 08:11:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2485 on: November 27, 2014, 08:33:PM »
Later on, at about 9.30pm, Payne left the tapas bar with another male member, bound for apartment 5A on the pretense of checking on the McCann children. By this stage, the body of Maddie had been displaced from the wardrobe in the parents bedroom, to behind the sofa in the lounge. When both David Payne and the other arrived outside apartment 5A, Payne waited outside in the garden of apartment 5A, below the patio...

« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 08:34:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2486 on: November 27, 2014, 08:43:PM »
I do not profess to know, exactly when, or by whom, Maddies body got transferred from behind the sofa into the shrubbery of the garden outside, but soon after David Payne arrived there, he was scurry away up to his apartment carrying the body along with him. When the other returned to the tapas bar, he told the McCanns and the others, that David Payne had remained back at his apartment because his own daughter had been unwell with food poisoning - this was a coded message to let Jerry McCann know that Maddies body had been removed from the apartment, altogether...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2487 on: November 27, 2014, 08:47:PM »
I do not profess to know, exactly when, or by whom, Maddies body got transferred from behind the sofa into the shrubbery of the garden outside, but soon after David Payne arrived there, he was scurry away up to his apartment carrying the body along with him. When the other returned to the tapas bar, he told the McCanns and the others, that David Payne had remained back at his apartment because his own daughter had been unwell with food poisoning - this was a coded message to let Jerry McCann know that Maddies body had been removed from the apartment, altogether...

Within 10 minutes of one of the good samaritons returning to the tapas bar, from checking on her children,  Kate left to go and check the apartment herself at around 10pm, and raised the alarm that "they have taken her, they have taken her, Maddy is gone"...
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 08:49:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2488 on: November 27, 2014, 09:41:PM »
 The term " they " covered the fact that it could have been a he or a she,or both and was just a figure of speech. Kate didn't specifically know it was a " they".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2489 on: November 28, 2014, 12:58:AM »
Mike,it was Russell and Matt that left the tapas at 9.30pm with Matt allegedly checking the McCann children. And it was Russell that stayed at his apartment as his daughter was sick. As far as I'm aware,Payne did not leave the table that night. Well,not until Kate came running to say Maddie had gone anyway.