The case of Madeleine McCann

[Patti]

Hi Patti,,I'm not anticipating too much regarding the programme either,,considering that it's another complex case where they won't have included many of the things that indeed we know ourselves. It would take more than an hour to sift through the reams of information that there is,,and they probably won't show much more than we already know. So the idea is,,not to expect too much at this juncture.

Hi Lookout....I can't but help feel that this should have been done 6 years ago by our police.  The same applies to Ben Needham. They are British children gone missing abroad which does not mean that because they disappeared abroad our police should not investigate thoroughly.

I'll gather a timeline together in a bit and post it.....I wish I had my old one...Do you still have one??

[Patti]

A quick timeline from approx 8:30 all times are approx.

All arrived at the Tapas Bar for 9:00

8;25 Gerry and Kate arrive
8:30 Jane arrives for dinner
8:45 Russell Jane's partner arrives.
8:45 Mathew and his partner leave for the tapas bar
9:00 David and Fiona arrive

Visits to the Children

9:05 Gerry leaves to do his check. He sees' Madeline. 
9:15 Jane T leaves to do her check and sees Gerry and Jez chatting and also sees a man carrying a child walking across the top of the road.
9:35 Russell and Matthew go. Russell stays at his apartment because one of the children has woken up
Matthew checks on the McCann children he sees the twins but does not enter the room.
9:45 Jane T goes back to her apartment
9:50 Russell returns back to the Tapas Bar
10:00 Kate goes to check. 

[mike tesko]

Maddie:- "Thank you. Mr Mike, I am coming home"...

[Alias]

Hi Alias

Assuming it is available on iplayer, which I'm sure it will be,
I should be able to post the link for you to watch?  Unless of course you're based in N.Korea where everything is censored?

Thanks, NN, if it is required that I have a smartphone, I am afraid that is not possible, I don´t have one right now. Very kind of you, and thanks Patti, for the computer-pictures. One of the men looks like an Egyptian I have come across here in Copenhagen - not a nice type, but unlikely it is him.

[Patti]

Thanks, NN, if it is required that I have a smartphone, I am afraid that is not possible, I don´t have one right now. Very kind of you, and thanks Patti, for the computer-pictures. One of the men looks like an Egyptian I have come across here in Copenhagen - not a nice type, but unlikely it is him.

You're very welcome Alias. Hopefully, it will be on youtube at some point....

I'm a little annoyed as to why it wont be shown in Portugal and its not even made front-line news. 

[Patti]

Alias you might be able to watch it from here.....People in Belgium are using this tonight....

http://www.filmon.com/tv/bbc-one

[Alias]

Alias you might be able to watch it from here.....People in Belgium are using this tonight....

http://www.filmon.com/tv/bbc-one

You are a gem - I have a picture, ads for now. WHOOOP WHOOP! When is it on?

[Patti]

You are a gem - I have a picture, ads for now. WHOOOP WHOOP! When is it on?

Yep that is it.....its on in about 17 minutes....

[Alias]

Yep that is it.....its on in about 17 minutes....

I want to hug you! I am hugging you now!!! 

[Patti]

I want to hug you! I am hugging you now!!! 

ohhhhhhhhhhhh I wondered who had just grabbed hold of me lol  Enjoy! 

[lookout]

Patti,,those two guys who were in that flat.? A " cleaning firm " from the UK.? Remember.? Murat was the " letter " of the flats.

[Alias]

It gave me chills when the McCanns said that Maddie had actually said to them at breakfast the morning of the night she disappeared: where were you when we were crying last night?
I don´t want to bash them, but how could they leave the children alone after that?? - And just in general!
Could Maddie have woken up, found that her parents were out AGAIN, and walked off alone to find her them that fateful night? It´s a possibility. Doesn´t explain the open window though.

[Patti]

Patti,,those two guys who were in that flat.? A " cleaning firm " from the UK.? Remember.? Murat was the " letter " of the flats.

I can give you all the names of the cleaners....But I don't know of a UK firm of cleaners that were in the apartment....The only thing I can recall is that someone had been in to mend the parents window and could have mended the washer.....Other than than I am not sure what you mean.....

So we have it then that it was JT's timeline that was the focus point on tonight's CW.....I'd always said that you could not have one walking east and another walking in the south west....unless of course he about turned....Not sure if there is an update later on tonight....

[lookout]

10.35 the update,Patti. Yes,,that was more like it. Do we know about Jez Wilkins.? He was the guy that Gerry stopped to talk to when that chap walked along carrying a child.
 
The cleaning firm were in a white van I think.

What wasn't mentioned was the near robbery in that womans' flat/apartment.What was her name,,and did she give a description because the guy was brazenly inside her home.

[Patti]

10.35 the update,Patti. Yes,,that was more like it. Do we know about Jez Wilkins.? He was the guy that Gerry stopped to talk to when that chap walked along carrying a child.
 
The cleaning firm were in a white van I think.

What wasn't mentioned was the near robbery in that womans' flat/apartment.What was her name,,and did she give a description because the guy was brazenly inside her home.

One white van belonged to the British musician who was at the time sleeping in it near the beach, and the other one belonged to the pool attendant who was Murat's  girlfriends husband....

No mention of them tonight....One last thing before I go up the apples and pears is that why didn't the PJ discover that the man walking across the road was someone from the creche? Also I am amazed that the man never came forward to say it was him....I find this odd to be honest.....why is he walking towards the creche and not away from it.....mind boggles....