Jeremy Bamber: the Prelude, the Tragedy and the Aftermath

[Steve_uk]

And yet you say he planned it for a year?

As Bridget said earlier today,he kept his eye out for a convenient moment and I'm afraid it all just came together for him:his parents' careworn state,Colin's party,Sheila's Haloperidol wearing off,them all together under one roof..it's just too coincidental for it not to have been Jeremy.

[Alias]

I will upset some adoptees here again I'm afraid but Jeremy Bamber was born in Kensington,London and had city life flowing through his veins. How he must have envied the flat his parents bought Sheila in Maida Vale,if not her lifestyle. When he realized that Sheila had become ill and was struggling with everyday tasks such as putting beans on toast,and cast an eye on his adoptive parents: Nevill who was off work from his magistrates' job with stress and June who would burst into tears most days, who were both ageing however much deep down they loved him,I think Jeremy began to see how he in his mind could "do everyone a favour",especially when he saw the twins clinging to Colin at the party and made that infamous comment "they're a millstone round your neck".

You're right about Jeremy not being fully aware of things because he saw them from his warped angle and which ultimately proved to be his downfall. Nobody can seriously expect Sheila to have been in any kind of struggle with Nevill which left a ceiling light broken and Sheila intact,nor did Nevill the former RAF pilot relinquish the telephone without some exertion on his part,even if was only leaving his bloodied prints on the blue and white chequered worktop and hiding his watch under the rug.

Are you serious! 

[Steve_uk]

Are you serious! 

Yes Alias. They stuck a city man in a tractor with adoptive parents and an adoptive mentally ill sister whom Colin found impossible to live with. Jeremy stuck around because as he told Julie "I have too much to lose". Add Sheila's musings on the Devil and the twins projecting evil onto others and Jeremy's worries that June might change her will in favour of the Church(Jeremy knew what a disappointment he was to his adoptive parents even if they tried to conceal their feelings) with maybe the odd Marjorie Allingham novel on the bookcase and an evil plan starts to germinate inside his head..

[Patti]

Yes Alias. They stuck a city man in a tractor with adoptive parents and an adoptive mentally ill sister whom Colin found impossible to live with. Jeremy stuck around because as he told Julie "I have too much to lose". Add Sheila's musings on the Devil and the twins projecting evil onto others and Jeremy's worries that June might change her will in favour of the Church(Jeremy knew what a disappointment he was to his adoptive parents even if they tried to conceal their feelings) with maybe the odd Marjorie Allingham novel on the bookcase and an evil plan starts to germinate inside his head..

If he was such a disappointment then why did his father purchase a farm for him and, why did Jeremy own 40 acres of land and had shares in the caravan park along with yearly bonuses? In fact was Jeremy looking into modern day farming....and never shut up talking about farming...give him some credit Steve....

[Lugg]

Are you serious! 

Haha yes thats a good one isn't it Alias? "City life flowing through his veins".  Hate to think if he ever had a bus clot. Or a taxi infection.

[Steve_uk]

If he was such a disappointment then why did his father purchase a farm for him and, why did Jeremy own 40 acres of land and had shares in the caravan park along with yearly bonuses? In fact was Jeremy looking into modern day farming....and never shut up talking about farming...give him some credit Steve....

Probably on June's instigation. You're forgetting that upon Jeremy's return to England he eschewed farming in favour of working in a Little Chef off the A12. If Nevill and June really understood their son they would have bought him a restaurant to manage or a wine bar,but this was once again a symptom of their control over their children,the way they had planned their children's lives and not listened to both of them,nor had ever given them any hugs,the effects of which were also well-documented.

[Caroline R]

Yes Alias. They stuck a city man in a tractor with adoptive parents and an adoptive mentally ill sister whom Colin found impossible to live with. Jeremy stuck around because as he told Julie "I have too much to lose". Add Sheila's musings on the Devil and the twins projecting evil onto others and Jeremy's worries that June might change her will in favour of the Church(Jeremy knew what a disappointment he was to his adoptive parents even if they tried to conceal their feelings) with maybe the odd Marjorie Allingham novel on the bookcase and an evil plan starts to germinate inside his head..

They were all in the tractor? Must have been cramped!

[Patti]

Probably on June's instigation. You're forgetting that upon Jeremy's return to England he eschewed farming in favour of working in a Little Chef off the A12. If Nevill and June really understood their son they would have bought him a restaurant to manage or a wine bar,but this was once again a symptom of their control over their children,the way they had planned their children's lives and not listened to both of them,nor had ever given them any hugs,the effects of which were also well-documented.

So he worked at the little chef! That was his choice, it was also his choice to work on the farm, he could have left at any time, like his sister did,...there was nothing stopping him. He had time out, most middle class youths do, more so today than ever before.

I think you might be right about his parents being controlling, but i am sure they wanted the best for their children...but like always children don't see it that way and rebel for while...

[Alias]

Yes Alias. They stuck a city man in a tractor with adoptive parents and an adoptive mentally ill sister whom Colin found impossible to live with. Jeremy stuck around because as he told Julie "I have too much to lose". Add Sheila's musings on the Devil and the twins projecting evil onto others and Jeremy's worries that June might change her will in favour of the Church(Jeremy knew what a disappointment he was to his adoptive parents even if they tried to conceal their feelings) with maybe the odd Marjorie Allingham novel on the bookcase and an evil plan starts to germinate inside his head..

Jeremy wasn´t a man when he arrived in the arms of June and Ralph, he was a baby. I have never heard about a city baby! 
What you say here is too "out there" for my taste.

[Caroline R]

Jeremy wasn´t a man when he arrived in the arms of June and Ralph, he was a baby. I have never heard about a city baby! 
What you say here is too "out there" for my taste.

Ya think? 

[lookout]

Yes Alias. They stuck a city man in a tractor with adoptive parents and an adoptive mentally ill sister whom Colin found impossible to live with. Jeremy stuck around because as he told Julie "I have too much to lose". Add Sheila's musings on the Devil and the twins projecting evil onto others and Jeremy's worries that June might change her will in favour of the Church(Jeremy knew what a disappointment he was to his adoptive parents even if they tried to conceal their feelings) with maybe the odd Marjorie Allingham novel on the bookcase and an evil plan starts to germinate inside his head..

So the fact that Jeremy had said that he had" too much to lose " should tell everyone really,that his intentions were to stick with the farming,along with his family,,,not to blast them to Kingdom Come with a .22 rifle.

[Steve_uk]

I wish I had the clip from youtube but the dialogue will have to suffice. Blake Carrington on prime time television says:"You do not survive by giving anything away.There are the wolves and there are the sheep.If you're a sheep you get killed and you get eaten because that's the way it is in this world".

The irony to this as Jeremy watched this in the lounge at Bourtree Cottage is that the competition is even more fierce today,yet the political correctness prevalent now and absent back in the 1980s makes it seem the other way around.

[Steve_uk]

So the fact that Jeremy had said that he had" too much to lose " should tell everyone really,that his intentions were to stick with the farming,along with his family,,,not to blast them to Kingdom Come with a .22 rifle.

Well it's surprising that you accept parts of Julie's statement when it advances your cause and reject when it doesn't. The fact that Julie even mentions to Jeremy that he walks away suggests to me that she was in love with him and would have accepted the man without any financial motive.

[lookout]

I wish I had the clip from youtube but the dialogue will have to suffice. Blake Carrington on prime time television says:"You do not survive by giving anything away.There are the wolves and there are the sheep.If you're a sheep you get killed and you get eaten because that's the way it is in this world".

The irony to this as Jeremy watched this in the lounge at Bourtree Cottage is that the competition is even more fierce today,yet the political correctness prevalent now and absent back in the 1980s makes it seem the other way around.

More dog eat dog,Steve. Excuse me while I watch Stephen Fry ( who doesn't look like him )

[mertol22]

So he worked at the little chef! That was his choice, it was also his choice to work on the farm, he could have left at any time, like his sister did,...there was nothing stopping him. He had time out, most middle class youths do, more so today than ever before.

I think you might be right about his parents being controlling, but i am sure they wanted the best for their children...but like always children don't see it that way and rebel for while...

Thanks for nothing steve this talk about Little Chef has made me hungary , my gut is making funny noises..