Schedule of Shot Distances

[Patti]

Just posting this for reference. I will post the DRH from the T/Room after evening dinner.

SHELL CASES/SPENT BULLETS

Main Bedroom

DRH 1 Sheila (Bullet Case)

DRH 2 Sheila  (Bullet Case)



DRH 3 Inside door of main bedroom on the right side. (Bullet Case)


DRH 4 Next to DRH 3 (Bullet Case)


DRH 5 Inside door, right hand side near dressing  table (BULLET)

DRH 6 Top of quilt right side of bed (Bullet Case)


DRH 7 Under Wardrobe (TWO Bullet Cases)

DRH 8 Left hand side of bed near pillow (Bullet Case)


DRH 9 Left hand side of pillow 4 inches from DRH 8  (BULLET)

DRH 10 Right hand side on the floor, next to bed. (Bullet Case)


DRH 11 Next to Wardrobe (Bullet Case)


DRH 12 Right side of bed on the floor (Bullet Case)


DRH 13 On metal strip leading to landing on the right side. (Bullet Case)

DRH  35 Found in Pillow (TWO BULLETS)


DRH 43 under wardrobe main bedroom right hand side.  (Bullet Case)


Total 14 Bullets in the main bedroom, from a magazine that only takes 10, with one in the breech.  ? (Bullet Case)


KITCHEN

DRH 19 Kitchen table (Bullet Case)


DRH 41 Kitchen floor under the table (Bullet Case)


DRH 20 Under mat near kitchen sink near Nevill's watch.  (Bullet Case)

T/ROOM

DRH 36 Found on floor. (BULLET)

DRH 37 (Bullet Case)

DRH 38  (Bullet Case)

DRH 39 (TWO BULLET CASES)

DRH 40  (Bullet Case)

DRH  34 (BULLET)

DRH 16 (Bullet Case)

DRH 17  (Bullet Case)

DRH 18  (Bullet Case)



Hartley have you found anything today? 

Revised.

I'm still confused as to how DRH/36 ended up half down the left hand side of the bed on the floor, if the killer was stood in the middle firing the opposite way....Now do you see where I am coming from? 

[maggie]

Hey Maggie... I think the thread has been split...Not sure why? Are you OK today? 

Yes thanks Patti. Just answered bohems'post didnt realise the thread had been split til after I'd posted.

[Patti]

Hi patti the DRH/35 being in the twins and main bedroom is nothing to do with single and double marked bullets, i think i read somewhere about the shooter, shooting june first then going into the twins room and firing x bullets,  then firing 2 more shots at june? just a thought

Hi Ralph...Sorry nearly missed your post...I read it wrong...lol I thought 35 looked like 36....It's Friday and I am shattered....

I am still confused over DRH/36 and its position....Are you ready for the snow tomorrow? 

[Patti]

Yes thanks Patti. Just answered bohems'post didnt realise the thread had been split til after I'd posted.

Hi Maggie, I hope I'm not boring folk about these bullets....I'm going to have a nice glass of wine in a bit... :D :D :D

[maggie]

Hi Maggie, I hope I'm not boring folk about these bullets....I'm going to have a nice glass of wine in a bit... :D :D :D

It doesn't bore me Patti, I find it interesting.

[Patti]

It doesn't bore me Patti, I find it interesting.

Oh maggie, that great....can I use you for a minute.  I hope this doesn't upset anyone or you maggie.

Imagine that you are in between two beds and facing the wall and, you shoot in a downward position at the pillows from about 1 foot away.  How does a whole spent bullet get behind you on the floor. 

[maggie]

Oh maggie, that great....can I use you for a minute.  I hope this doesn't upset anyone or you maggie.

Imagine that you are in between two beds and facing the wall and, you shoot in a downward position at the pillows from about 1 foot away.  How does a whole spent bullet get behind you on the floor. 

Don't know Patti, don't know how it could unless it ricocheted off something....doesn't make much sense or it was kicked out of position?  Not very good I'm afraid Patti, am a but ignorant about guns, have never handled one or even been close to one in my life.

[Patti]

Don't know Patti, don't know how it could unless it ricocheted off something....doesn't make much sense or it was kicked out of position?  Not very good I'm afraid Patti, am a but ignorant about guns, have never handled one or even been close to one in my life.

Makes perfect sense to me maggie    It could have been kicked I suppose, but how did it get on the floor...Oh well, I think I will have me wine...and cheer up lol 

[lookout]

Hi Patti,,,I think a bullet can ricochet backwards,,,,,if that's what you mean. ?

[lookout]

Hi Patti,,,I think a bullet can ricochet backwards,,,,,if that's what you mean. ?

Going by the old cowboy films anyway,hahahaha.

[Patti]

Hi Patti,,,I think a bullet can ricochet backwards,,,,,if that's what you mean. ?

Hi Lookout, that is what Hartley said, it could have ricocheted off the wall, but would that not cause damage?  If the bullet came from am exit wound of one of the twins then how come it landed on the floor, half way down the bed.  I will have to check the path report again....

[tyler]

This is why I have never studied the ballistic evidence myself.As EP didn't preserve the crime scene,who knows what bullets/cases got kicked where.Due to this,trying to piece together the chain of events is never going to be entirely accurate.I do however agree with hartley's scenario of how the twins were shot.God rest their little souls.

[lookout]

Hi Lookout, that is what Hartley said, it could have ricocheted off the wall, but would that not cause damage?  If the bullet came from am exit wound of one of the twins then how come it landed on the floor, half way down the bed.  I will have to check the path report again....

Damage to the shooter,,,yes.

[maggie]

Hi Lookout, that is what Hartley said, it could have ricocheted off the wall, but would that not cause damage?  If the bullet came from am exit wound of one of the twins then how come it landed on the floor, half way down the bed.  I will have to check the path report again....

I agree Patti, ricochet would cause damage surely?  Maybe it just wasn't mentioned. Coming from an exit wound it can't have landed were it was found, I'm sure. Other optin is it was elsewhere and was moved...EP were such an incompetent lot nothing found can be taken as kosher imo.  I mean that training sessin surely they didn't include the twins?  Its horrific.

[guest7363]

This is why I have never studied the ballistic evidence myself.As EP didn't preserve the crime scene,who knows what bullets/cases got kicked where.Due to this,trying to piece together the chain of events is never going to be entirely accurate.I do however agree with hartley's scenario of how the twins were shot.God rest their little souls.

Same here tyler, at what stage or after how many shots fired do you think ralph was shot? Mike thinks 8 or 10th shot? If its after that many the rifle has to be reloaded?