"I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."

[Steve_uk]

"I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy"-these words written by Sheila in her journal in her last hours on earth and which sealed her fate will be etched indelibly on any serious studier of the White House Murder crimes. They suggest that the siblings had had a row on that Tuesday night, possibly as an embittered Jeremy had reminded her where the money for the maintenance of her London Maida Vale was coming from and how hard it was earned by him tilling the soil, for which he seemed to receive little appreciation from the company gathered around him. Nevill would castigate his heir for not putting in sufficient hours or getting his hands dirty, herein a covert reference to the rumours of a sexual deviance which Nevill endured on the occasions he supped at the Red Lion public house. June had long since refrained from tackling her son on any public or private matter, their uneasy modus vivendi resulting in the merest of pleasantries being exchanged in any random encounter at the Farm.

Yet looking back from the grim realities of a grey prison cell it is Sheila whom Jeremy has talked about most in terms which could most be construed as any shred of regret or remorse. Sheila was of an age where she was likely to be believed, and though in reality immature and harmless her remarks cut an already emotionally-damaged Jeremy. If only he had understood his sister or attempted to understand her illness just that little bit more, he would have been able to realize why June acted as she did in providing a cushion of support, which in no way detracted from June's love for him, nor could Sheila be culpable for lashing out at times at the people most dear to her,this being inherent in the nature of her illness.In the over-competitive environment in which Nevill placed Jeremy at Gresham's whilst only eight years old his father was planning ahead and doing what he felt was in the long-term interests of his son. Yet this only caused bitterness and alienation from both parents as the years progressed and engendered a feeling of hopelessness as Jeremy was ever outwitted by his smarter peers. Only now has Jeremy begun to realize what he had and what he has thrown away, which must make the passage of every day even more unbearable as he reflects on the heartfelt remorse Sheila expressed as a new year of confinement starts.

[Patti]

Hi Steve 

Where have you got that from? 

[Bambergate]

I want to know what planet Steve is on or from?

[Steve_uk]

Hi Steve 

Where have you got that from? 

Hi Patti,had a long day..was reading Susan's remarks and checking for a reference about the burn marks to Neville when I came across this remark from Sheila in Roger Wilkes' book,but frustratingly there's nothing there about the burns. I'm glad to see you're back on the serious stuff..will have to read Andrew Hunter's comments(I think it was him)on the significance of the burn marks. If I recall it was Campion who said the burns marks could be replicated identically simply with the heat of the Aga..is this true?

[Patti]

Hi Patti,had a long day..was reading Susan's remarks and checking for a reference about the burn marks to Neville when I came across this remark from Sheila in Roger Wilkes' book,but frustratingly there's nothing there about the burns. I'm glad to see you're back on the serious stuff..will have to read Andrew Hunter's comments(I think it was him)on the significance of the burn marks. If I recall it was Campion who said the burns marks could be replicated identically simply with the heat of the Aga..is this true?

Hi Steve, where was this remark found; was it WHF or her flat? I must get that book, but its a bit pricey.......Alls, I read Steve is the case papers, which are more factual than any book...Books are like newspapers, they are made to sell....

I've had a long day too, but will have a shorter one tomorrow, I hope...Hey, I am always serious.   

[Steve_uk]

Hi Steve, where was this remark found; was it WHF or her flat? I must get that book, but its a bit pricey.......Alls, I read Steve is the case papers, which are more factual than any book...Books are like newspapers, they are made to sell....

I've had a long day too, but will have a shorter one tomorrow, I hope...Hey, I am always serious.   

I'm assuming it was among the notes Sheila would write at White House Farm as it occurred on that last day when she took the twins into the fields and was joined by Jeremy for a ten minute chat,the contents of which Jeremy refused to disclose to DS Stan Jones under interrogation on 12 September. It might also have been as a result of any kitchen conversation that last evening Jeremy recounted about June's idea of having the twins adopted,or Sheila being forced to go into NHS care the next time she had a breakdown,but I take all this as speculation as it's Jeremy's word against people who would end up dead only a few hours later.

[guest154]

If true that Sheila wrote that....."I didn't mean to be cruel to Jeremy"..only to later be killed by Jeremy....there is a horrible sadness to that.

[Steve_uk]

If true that Sheila wrote that....."I didn't mean to be cruel to Jeremy"..only to later be killed by Jeremy....there is a horrible sadness to that.

Indeed there was mat,and it begs the speculation just what the future beheld for that family,given that Jeremy was effectively tied to the farm for the duration of his father's lifetime,the years of resentment harboured by Jeremy building unremittingly towards an inexorable cataclysm of violence. I doubt that June took pleasure in controlling the purse strings sensing her son's increasing grievances,and as she pondered the implications of that financial bourne which had successfully reined Jeremy in in the past,little would she know that Jeremy was destined on a new and deadly course,nor foresee to what lengths his monetary splurges would extend once his adoptive family was dead and buried.

[Jane]

Hi Steve 

Where have you got that from? 

Patti, I read that Jeremy is supposed to have said that Sheila did something nasty/horrible/terrible to him. It wasn't expanded on, which makes me think it may be true, and I assumed it to have happened in the distant, rather than the recent past. "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy" could have been in her mind if she was contemplating suicide.

[campion]

  Bambergate,  Your post #2 :-
  Is there some significance in that said Steve uk spells 'reailiZed with a 'Z'? ....cf - 'I spell Sierra'!
  Dare I suggest that 'disgusted of Tunbridge Wells', has changed his 'monikker' to 'Salacious Steve of Slough', the ubiquitous home of MARS.

 Good Morning 'Early Bird' April,  I consider it more than probable and most likely, that which Sheila is alleged
 to have said, is a 'Chinese Whisper', machinated by AE to Muggy.
  Remember, it took 4 prompts for the 'knowledgeable' Steve' to acknowledge that Jeremy worked at the 'Little Chef', alongside the A12, and NOT the A10. He/she is disaillusionally disorientated.

[Jane]

Campion dear, it takes one to recognize one, does it not, but where is the worm, and should we locate it, shall we share it?

[susan]

Morning steve uk  just reading your posts from last night and I am wondering what you are hoping to achieve on this forum.  You have made it quite clear that you hate Jeremy Bamber and are adamant he is guilty.  He was found guilty in a Court of Law and is serving a full life tarriff. What more do you want from him or the Judicial System.

I suspect you are on the forum to exonerate Julie of any wrong doings as she was an accessory to these murders and at the time was upto no good mostly without Jeremy she was managing it all on her own.  They were not Bonnie & Clyde.  I do accept neither were model citizens.  If you are trying to convince the world Julie is a good person so let it be but be honest about it. I have to admit your posts bring colour to the forum and I am sure you would be missed if you decided to leave us.

[campion]

  Susan, Honey bunny girl,  Why does April use 'Z' in recognise? What planet be 'er on? By Jove!
  Will you kindly interpret her post, pleeeeease? By 'worm' does she mean as in 'screw'?

  BTW Good post to Martian STEVE.

[Steve_uk]

Patti, I read that Jeremy is supposed to have said that Sheila did something nasty/horrible/terrible to him. It wasn't expanded on, which makes me think it may be true, and I assumed it to have happened in the distant, rather than the recent past. "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy" could have been in her mind if she was contemplating suicide.

The remark does appear to have been mentioned to Julie in the past by Jeremy as it was in her statement,and again there's a mystery as to its exact meaning,as Jeremy does not elucidate as to the nature of the discord. Knowing Sheila it was probably something minor or petty to do with his appearance,as he was put down expressed in that typical feminine way designed specifically to insult a man.

The diary entry tells me she picked up a pen not a gun,and makes unlikely to my mind the scenario of her taking her father hostage and forcing him to make a telephone call summoning Jeremy to the farm. Far more likely is Sheila taking a bath,manicuring her nails and otherwise going about her toilet,her unbesmirched appearance ruling out the effort required to discharge 25 bullets with pinpoint accuracy whilst producing the sweat and adrenalin necessary to slaughter the victims.

[susan]

Morning dearest campion  sadly I think april has lost the plot since meeting you and is trying her best to speak your lingo I am at a loss at what her post means.  I am not overwhelmed by the farmers balls as I love the music and during the gay gordons do get somewhat out of control and have to be restrained at times   It is a pity the event only happens a couple of times a year.