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Offline Patti

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2012, 04:44:PM »


Simon McKay is about the only person I contacted on the Bamber case who never replied, and some of these people were far higher up the legal ladder in this country than him, pretty much at the top of it I'd say.

They actually will speak in complete privacy - from sound proof rooms in the basement of mansions no less, possibly on custom built telephone equipment that is beyond tracking by any organisation.

I'm surprised some of them have given me the time of day, but I've always believed you should be able to speak to anyone.

One of them said 'It's about winning a case, nothing more, nothing less'.

I have ( by default while working abroad for a shipping tycoon ) answered the phone to President Carter amongst others, and he was a real gentleman! From that moment, I'm not sure if it's confidence or stupidity, I've tracked down anyone I wished to speak to.

Tom Stephens was one of the most interesting.

Hi Simon

It is all about winning, i suppose; but its all about client confidentiality too I would think...like a doctor patient relationship. Maybe he wont talk about if while the case is on going, because he would not like to be quoted.  :-\ :-\ :-\

Argh! The famous Tom Stephens....now he is a character! Did you find him OK to talk too?  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2012, 04:46:PM »
I also agree JB presents too big a problem to show the truth and it will be only resolved by public pressure.
Who have you contacted Simon ?

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2012, 04:58:PM »
Hello Simon  wow did you write a book on President Carter.  Please tell me who Tom Stephens is and why you would want to chat to him on the phone.

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2012, 05:00:PM »

if you believe in cover ups and conspiracy theories then maybe you should move to Americaland with the other fruits and cranks

Big goolies, I think you might be approaching the end of your forum stint, on this occasion at least.

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2012, 06:53:PM »
Hi Simon

It is all about winning, i suppose; but its all about client confidentiality too I would think...like a doctor patient relationship. Maybe he wont talk about if while the case is on going, because he would not like to be quoted.  :-\ :-\ :-\

Argh! The famous Tom Stephens....now he is a character! Did you find him OK to talk too?  :) :) :) :)

With Tom, it was like I'd ask him something, and there was that delay you get in a telecast of a few seconds before the audio cut in. Really interesting though, several hours of it, and I offered him the opportunity to write an account in the book should he wish. He declined, don't blame him. I didn't include the conversation in the book either.

I managed to get ( other than Suffolk Police ) the longest interview with Tom, his number was in the phone book. No one had phoned him about anything connected to the case in about 18 months.

It's a good job I'm not in the police, Martin Brunt used to say to me 'they have Stephens as a suspect with a small 's', and I said, not a capital one?

The police came and questioned me why Tom Stephens had phoned my home number pre-murder, I was able to tell them that it was one of the girls who was using Tom's phone.

Tom knew the movements of those girls better than they did, but they spoke well of him and said they were often glad of his warm car as a refuge.

Tom was involved with a lot of those girls, and I became involved with one of them too.

I included my association with 'Katie' in another book and a film script.

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2012, 07:03:PM »
With Tom, it was like I'd ask him something, and there was that delay you get in a telecast of a few seconds before the audio cut in. Really interesting though, several hours of it, and I offered him the opportunity to write an account in the book should he wish. He declined, don't blame him. I didn't include the conversation in the book either.

I managed to get ( other than Suffolk Police ) the longest interview with Tom, his number was in the phone book. No one had phoned him about anything connected to the case in about 18 months.

It's a good job I'm not in the police, Martin Brunt used to say to me 'they have Stephens as a suspect with a small 's', and I said, not a capital one?

The police came and questioned me why Tom Stephens had phoned my home number pre-murder, I was able to tell them that it was one of the girls who was using Tom's phone.

Tom knew the movements of those girls better than they did, but they spoke well of him and said they were often glad of his warm car as a refuge.

Tom was involved with a lot of those girls, and I became involved with one of them too.

I included my association with 'Katie' in another book and a film script.

Do you think Steve Wright was 100% guilty?  It got a bit crazy didn't it in the end? It was as if he wanted to get caught.....needed to be caught....yet he denies it! It didn't make sense to me then and it still doesn't.......He is on his 2nd appeal? sorry 3rd.....I think.  He lost his 1st, withdrew his 2nd and now on his 3rd....I thought when he withdrew the 2nd time, he knew he had no chance of winning.  I was shocked to find out that he is still fighting.....

Is TS a tad weird? or just a plain eccentric? Sorry for all the questions...lol  :) :) :) 

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2012, 11:10:PM »
Do you think Steve Wright was 100% guilty?  It got a bit crazy didn't it in the end? It was as if he wanted to get caught.....needed to be caught....yet he denies it! It didn't make sense to me then and it still doesn't.......He is on his 2nd appeal? sorry 3rd.....I think.  He lost his 1st, withdrew his 2nd and now on his 3rd....I thought when he withdrew the 2nd time, he knew he had no chance of winning.  I was shocked to find out that he is still fighting.....

Is TS a tad weird? or just a plain eccentric? Sorry for all the questions...lol  :) :) :)


Tom Stephens may have been looking for something from those girls that he wasn't getting in his life.

When I think about it, maybe it was the same for me.

'Katie' used to come back to my house in Colchester and I used to light about 30 candles for her while she was in the bath. I used to wash her hair too, and cook her little meals.

I asked her once if other 'clients' treated her the same.

It must have been Tom Stephens she referred to when describing someone who was out every night to take girls anywhere they wanted to go ( either for drugs or to meet clients ), and to 'be there for them'.

She told me that she thought Tom had probably been intimate with as many as 20 workers, and yet, despite his somewhat controlling nature, not a single girl spoke badly of him.

Each December it all comes flooding back to me, it's 6 years now. I laid flowers for the girls on Christmas morning in 2006, I didn't see anyone else around. Five white carnations, one for each of them.


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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2012, 11:21:PM »

Tom Stephens may have been looking for something from those girls that he wasn't getting in his life.

When I think about it, maybe it was the same for me.

'Katie' used to come back to my house in Colchester and I used to light about 30 candles for her while she was in the bath. I used to wash her hair too, and cook her little meals.

I asked her once if other 'clients' treated her the same.

It must have been Tom Stephens she referred to when describing someone who was out every night to take girls anywhere they wanted to go ( either for drugs or to meet clients ), and to 'be there for them'.

She told me that she thought Tom had probably been intimate with as many as 20 workers, and yet, despite his somewhat controlling nature, not a single girl spoke badly of him.

Each December it all comes flooding back to me, it's 6 years now. I laid flowers for the girls on Christmas morning in 2006, I didn't see anyone else around. Five white carnations, one for each of them.

I know that you were intimate with the girls. It is difficult not to know given the world wide web.  Call me nosey!  It must have been a difficult time in your life Simon...I can only see that you wanted company and friendship and was also interested in the way the girls lived and in your heart of hearts you did what you could.  They were grateful! Even grateful to Tom.

Anyway, are we related? did you have family in Nottinghamshire and Lancashire?

I will say good night because I have had too many coffee's and I am finding it difficult to type...lol Good night to you and all.... :) :) :) :)

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2012, 11:27:PM »
Sorry Patti - Steve Wright

( apologies to forum members to gatecrash Jeremy thread ).

When the DNA was taken from Alderton, Nichols and Clennel I got the distinct impression Stewart Gull and the team at Martlesham Heath were expecting it to be Tom Stephens.

By all accounts Gull said something along the lines of 'It's not Tom Stephens then'.

I never met Gull.

Respected him though and still do.

I think Wright did do it but a few people who have contacted me don't.

Await the 'new evidence' his brother refers to.




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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2012, 12:33:AM »
Big goolies, I think you might be approaching the end of your forum stint, on this occasion at least.

 
im sorry but one thing i dont want to see against JB on this matter is conspiracy claims or theories.... either he did it or he didnt. Not that he was 'set up' by the police.

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2012, 12:35:AM »
well if he dident do it then he must of been set up by the police.

how else does an innocent man end up in jail if there not set up by the police.
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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2012, 12:42:AM »
but why would the police set him up ?.... doesnt make sense
they could have gone along with the 'SC murder/suicide'

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2012, 01:01:AM »
but why would the police set him up ?.... doesnt make sense
they could have gone along with the 'SC murder/suicide'
Possibly because a big spanner (silencer) was thrown into the works by the relatives? I think that is where most of the conspiracy theories come from?

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2012, 01:08:AM »
Big goolies.....there have been LOADS of cases of police corruption! How can you deny that it exists?

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Re: Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2012, 01:22:AM »
Big goolies.....there have been LOADS of cases of police corruption! How can you deny that it exists?

 
true there have been lots of cases of police corruption but the fact is that this could have been wrapped up quite quickly as a murder/suicide case and wasnt... wether from intervention from the Bamber family it doesnt mean a conspriacy 
are we to think that the Bamber family had more sway in the police actions than most people do ?