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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #180 on: January 09, 2013, 07:44:PM »
Yes, both had contact shots according to Vanezis.
Do you have the documents to support this Yeltrah? Roger Wilkes' book doesn't specifically confirm it.

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #181 on: January 09, 2013, 07:46:PM »
Well I think the thing which should really do it, is if you were going to plant evidence (which is what I think you are implying), then would you call the police to see the silencer in the gun cupboard, or would you get the police to collect it from Oak Farm? Which is the better option when planting evidence?

That's a good point, I hadn't thought of that.
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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #182 on: January 09, 2013, 07:46:PM »
Do you have the documents to support this Yeltrah? Roger Wilkes' book doesn't specifically confirm it.

I'll have a look.

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #183 on: January 09, 2013, 07:50:PM »
Hello Bridget  pardon my ignorance but where did the Police collect the silencer.

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« Reply #184 on: January 09, 2013, 07:53:PM »
Hello Bridget  pardon my ignorance but where did the Police collect the silencer.

From oak farm, Ann & Peter's house.
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« Reply #185 on: January 09, 2013, 07:56:PM »
Hi Bridget  why would they have thought it necessary to remove the silencer from WHF.  Surely if it was considered evidence it should hav been left in situ.

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #186 on: January 09, 2013, 08:00:PM »
Hi Bridget  why would they have thought it necessary to remove the silencer from WHF.  Surely if it was considered evidence it should hav been left in situ.

That's a good question, maybe they didnt realise the significance of it until they'd had a closer look.
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« Reply #187 on: January 09, 2013, 08:03:PM »
That's a good question, maybe they didnt realise the significance of it until they'd had a closer look.

I suppose also the fact that the house had been handed over and effectively wasn't a controlled crime scene anymore, there shouldn't have been anything of evidential value remaining.

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #188 on: January 09, 2013, 08:06:PM »
Well I think the thing which should really do it, is if you were going to plant evidence (which is what I think you are implying), then would you call the police to see the silencer in the gun cupboard, or would you get the police to collect it from Oak Farm? Which is the better option when planting evidence?
No, I wasn't implying that they planed evidence. I was actually saying that this backs up their story and indicates that they "did not" plant it.
In fact I have never implied that they planted the evidence. What I have said though on many occasions is that the silencer evidence should have been thrown out of court because of the way it was found with no independant party present, ie a police or someone who was completely independent of the family. My stand against the trial is and always has been a legal one. And the silencer evidence as it was presented in court should not have been accepted. Furthermore the judge should not have summed up as he did concerning the silencer about blood being found in it. But rather has this silencer evidence been corrupted.
What I am saying here though is that the fact that June and Ralph's blood was found in the silencer helps to confirm that they did not concoct the evidence. It is not a view that accuses the relatives at all. But a view that is looking at evidence as it should have been presented. But  as it was the court made its judgment so it is all academic anyway.

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #189 on: January 09, 2013, 08:08:PM »
Do you have the documents to support this Yeltrah? Roger Wilkes' book doesn't specifically confirm it.

I can't locate it at the moment, I actually think it was Fletcher who reports the shot distances rather that Vanezis.

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #190 on: January 09, 2013, 08:08:PM »
Hi Bridget  why would they have thought it necessary to remove the silencer from WHF.  Surely if it was considered evidence it should hav been left in situ.
Possibly because they thought perhaps someone else might come and remove it before the police came?

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #191 on: January 09, 2013, 08:17:PM »
Is there an explanation why Sheila's blood but not DNA was found in the silencer..also a strong possibility of June's DNA. There's another angle discussed in Andrew Hunter's book draft which might be a good read for new members. The silencer discussion starts on page 20 for those interested.http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2441.0

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #192 on: January 09, 2013, 08:32:PM »
Possibly because they thought perhaps someone else might come and remove it before the police came?




So, who is the someone else?

Anyhow, I thought there was more than one silencer!

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #193 on: January 09, 2013, 08:37:PM »



So, who is the someone else?

Anyhow, I thought there was more than one silencer!

Not at the scene, although some think Pargeters was there.

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Re: Nevill's Premonition?
« Reply #194 on: January 09, 2013, 08:43:PM »
Yes, both had contact shots according to Vanezis.

Hi Yeltrah

As far as I can see, as per pm reports, it was only Sheila who received near contact or contact shots?