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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #270 on: December 16, 2012, 07:02:PM »
Hello lookout that is the way.  Your possessions must go to the people you want to have them not just any tom dick or harry that is why people make wills.

I know all this only too well,,and I'm afraid I was behind the door when ( how to be greedy ) was handed out,Susan.
It remains a very sore point with me. Only for having a star of a solicitor,I would have lost out altogether.

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #271 on: December 16, 2012, 07:03:PM »
There's a different avatar accompanying your posts every time I read them. Maybe you should stick with Audrey Hepburn in "The Nun's Story". It really doesn't matter whether the estate was £436,000 gross or net. The point was that Jeremy would inherit the lion's share with five people out of the way,brutal as it may sound,and there would be no interregnum in Jeremy's mind wondering whether June would leave her money to the church,or Nevill would become disgruntled with his performance and leave his money to Sheila and the twins.

Hi Steve_uk

You will recall you found my initial avatar, a plaque of the Mother Mary, offensive so I changed it!

You see sacrilege and vulgarity where others don't.  Admittedly the above as an avatar with the contours less defined could be described as ambiguous.  My current avatar is themed for the festive period.  I will think of something more permanent in the New Year.  Thank you for suggesting Audrey Hepburn/The Nun's Story but I would find this inappropriate as she accepted the vow of obedience whereas I don't and would not want to mislead.

Some might view my avatar as a bit of a side-show  ::) I don't.  Imo the themes are highly relevant  to the case ie chastity, sin, prayer, the devil, evil, good v bad, bad blood etc, eg Sheila as "The Devil's Child" and Jeremy as "Evil Beyond Belief".

It really does matter whether the estate was 436k net or gross.  If Vidvic is correct and the estate amounted to 4 x 80k: AE, DB, AP and JW = 320k, this would mean the inheritance tax liability was circa 116k and provides a valid reason for Jeremy selling off family heirlooms etc with some urgency.

Why might Nevill be disgruntled with JB so much that he leaves his money to SC?  Whilst I have every sympathy for SC being brought up by a mentally ill and unsuitable adoptive mother, and who in turn developed mental illness herself, she was not exactly the model adopted daughter.  Imo this is entirely understandable given her innate sensibilities, upbringing and mental state.  Would NB leave his hard earned cash to SC with her ever increasing use of recreational drugs and rapidly deteriorating mental health?

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #272 on: December 16, 2012, 07:12:PM »
Hi Steve_uk

You will recall you found my initial avatar, a plaque of the Mother Mary, offensive so I changed it!

You see sacrilege and vulgarity where others don't.  Admittedly the above as an avatar with the contours less defined could be described as ambiguous.  My current avatar is themed for the festive period.  I will think of something more permanent in the New Year.  Thank you for suggesting Audrey Hepburn/The Nun's Story but I would find this inappropriate as she accepted the vow of obedience whereas I don't and would not want to mislead.

Some might view my avatar as a bit of a side-show  ::) I don't.  Imo the themes are highly relevant  to the case ie chastity, sin, prayer, the devil, evil, good v bad, bad blood etc, eg Sheila as "The Devil's Child" and Jeremy as "Evil Beyond Belief".

It really does matter whether the estate was 436k net or gross.  If Vidvic is correct and the estate amounted to 4 x 80k: AE, DB, AP and JW = 320k, this would mean the inheritance tax liability was circa 116k and provides a valid reason for Jeremy selling off family heirlooms etc with some urgency.

Why might Nevill be disgruntled with JB so much that he leaves his money to SC?  Whilst I have every sympathy for SC being brought up by a mentally ill and unsuitable adoptive mother, and who in turn developed mental illness herself, she was not exactly the model adopted daughter.  Imo this is entirely understandable given her innate sensibilities, upbringing and mental state.  Would NB leave his hard earned cash to SC with her ever increasing use of recreational drugs and rapidly deteriorating mental health?


NaNu, your avatar looks as if it may be ivory inlaid with coral and enhanced with platinum and gold. How beautiful :)

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #273 on: December 16, 2012, 07:13:PM »
Hello lookout pleased to hear you did not loose out altogether.  You know the saying Where there is a will there is a relative they all come out of the woodwork. :(

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #274 on: December 16, 2012, 07:19:PM »
Hello lookout pleased to hear you did not loose out altogether.  You know the saying Where there is a will there is a relative they all come out of the woodwork. :(

Oh,,these ones were already transfixed in the woodwork,Susan. Silent but deadly.

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #275 on: December 16, 2012, 07:23:PM »
lookout  you are so funny  :) :) :)

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« Reply #276 on: December 16, 2012, 07:24:PM »
To me,,the worst thing in this life is having to sort out a house,or houses where someones' lifes'" treasures " are there. It's heartbreaking, and also feels so wrong going through a persons' personal property.

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #277 on: December 16, 2012, 07:30:PM »
Hi lookout don't depress me it is an awful job to have to do. :(

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #278 on: December 16, 2012, 07:36:PM »

NaNu, your avatar looks as if it may be ivory inlaid with coral and enhanced with platinum and gold. How beautiful :)

Hi April1

Thank you.  I like my current festive avatar now.  You could always adopt it as your avatar?  But then Steve might no longer see you as 'enigmatic' and/or the efficient type akin to Babs Wilson.  You might receive a bottle of Blue Nun and a dirty card from Clintons instead.  Do you care?   :) :) :)

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #279 on: December 16, 2012, 07:40:PM »
Hi lookout don't depress me it is an awful job to have to do. :(


It's probably just me Susan.I prefer to leave things as they were,but I know you can't. Take no notice of me

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #280 on: December 16, 2012, 07:45:PM »
Hi Steve_uk

If June specifically wanted PB to have a keepsake, or anyone else for that matter, she would have bequeathed said item(s) in her will.  She made no such bequeathments.  JB did not flatly refuse but was put off by his extended family's presumption they could take what they wanted.
That's not necessarily the case. Ann Eaton had collected June's jewellery and belongings for safe keeping and delivered them to Pamela at Vaulty Manor,which Jeremy was avoiding like the plague,along with the other relatives. Why?

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #281 on: December 16, 2012, 07:48:PM »
Hi Steve_uk

You will recall you found my initial avatar, a plaque of the Mother Mary, offensive so I changed it!

You see sacrilege and vulgarity where others don't.  Admittedly the above as an avatar with the contours less defined could be described as ambiguous.  My current avatar is themed for the festive period.  I will think of something more permanent in the New Year.  Thank you for suggesting Audrey Hepburn/The Nun's Story but I would find this inappropriate as she accepted the vow of obedience whereas I don't and would not want to mislead.

Some might view my avatar as a bit of a side-show  ::) I don't.  Imo the themes are highly relevant  to the case ie chastity, sin, prayer, the devil, evil, good v bad, bad blood etc, eg Sheila as "The Devil's Child" and Jeremy as "Evil Beyond Belief".

It really does matter whether the estate was 436k net or gross.  If Vidvic is correct and the estate amounted to 4 x 80k: AE, DB, AP and JW = 320k, this would mean the inheritance tax liability was circa 116k and provides a valid reason for Jeremy selling off family heirlooms etc with some urgency.

Why might Nevill be disgruntled with JB so much that he leaves his money to SC?  Whilst I have every sympathy for SC being brought up by a mentally ill and unsuitable adoptive mother, and who in turn developed mental illness herself, she was not exactly the model adopted daughter.  Imo this is entirely understandable given her innate sensibilities, upbringing and mental state.  Would NB leave his hard earned cash to SC with her ever increasing use of recreational drugs and rapidly deteriorating mental health?
I'm afraid others did remark that your avatar was redolent of female genitalia. Read back. As for the inheritance,we have been over this many times;Jeremy was cutting and running becoming the sole beneficiary of the estate after the five deaths,inheriting a flat in a smart area of London in the process.
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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #282 on: December 16, 2012, 07:53:PM »
That's not necessarily the case. Ann Eaton had collected June's jewellery and belongings for safe keeping and delivered them to Pamela at Vaulty Manor,which Jeremy was avoiding like the plague,along with the other relatives. Why?


"For safe keeping.!" I've heard that one before,,a pretty familiar expression.

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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #283 on: December 16, 2012, 07:54:PM »
That's not necessarily the case. Ann Eaton had collected June's jewellery and belongings for safe keeping and delivered them to Pamela at Vaulty Manor,which Jeremy was avoiding like the plague,along with the other relatives. Why?

Hi Steve_uk

He was suddenly responisble for the running of the businesses/farm, ensuring the wages were paid, dealing with significant financial liabilities eg outstanding loans: renovations of Guildford, land purchase, farm equipment and inheritance tax liability with significant penalties for late payment.  Plus the grief and shock of losing his entire immediate adoptive family.


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Re: Did Brett Collins stand by Jeremy?
« Reply #284 on: December 16, 2012, 07:56:PM »

"For safe keeping.!" I've heard that one before,,a pretty familiar expression.
Well it was my expression not theirs,but they were at the house of Pamela and Mabel Speakman which Jeremy was avoiding lookout,with an offer to come over and sort out his mother's things. You can't get away from that.