Author Topic: Route from whf to head street  (Read 29745 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48661
Re: Route from whf to head street
« Reply #285 on: November 29, 2012, 08:58:AM »

Totally agree, Lookout, but whose mistake was it? Was it Jeremy who was trying to make them think he knew all there was to know about a situation of which he knew little(and why should he have known more?) OR was it typed up in a hurry, by someone employed by the police for secretarial purposes, who saw EC and assumed the next letter to be G rather than T, or maybe their finger just slipped. The letters sit together very closely.

Hi April,,it would have been done by someone with little or no knowledge of medical terminology. Anyones' guess really. May have thought they were one and the same.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 06:18:PM by mike tesko »

Caroline R

  • Guest
Re: Route from whf to head street
« Reply #286 on: November 29, 2012, 10:22:AM »

Totally agree, Lookout, but whose mistake was it? Was it Jeremy who was trying to make them think he knew all there was to know about a situation of which he knew little(and why should he have known more?) OR was it typed up in a hurry, by someone employed by the police for secretarial purposes, who saw EC and assumed the next letter to be G rather than T, or maybe their finger just slipped. The letters sit together very closely.

Morning April, either way, you would expect these statements to be checked for such errors.

Offline killingeve

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 299
Re: Route from whf to head street
« Reply #287 on: November 30, 2012, 12:23:PM »
Found it but it says E.C.G which is something completely different - it must be a typo because I can't see her having an electrocardiogram for the treatment of schizophrenia :). It's a typed statement dated 07/08/85, I have my own copy which I got from here - can't find it on here now though. I can post the whole thing if anyone wants it? Anyway, here is the page you referred to Steve.

Hello Caroline

Thank you for retrieving the statement.  Reading it through made me think back to a couple of points in Colin's book (omg I'm sounding like Steve_uk referring to the books) :

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3603.0;attach=27506

Where it states that Sheila met with her natural mother in May this would have been some 14 - 10 weeks before the murders dependent on when in May they met.  Apparently the press got wind of this and published articles to the effect that this in some way had an adverse effect on Sheila.  Colin stated that the meeting went well and that Sheila found her natural mother, Christine, was everything that June wasn't.  If what Colin says in his book is true then the relationship between June and Sheila could only be described as extremely toxic.  Apparently Sheila had hopes of spending more time with Christine.  However, I wonder how this would have been possible as firstly there was the geographical distance to overcome with Christine being based in Canada.  Secondly, and more importantly, the book states the following:

"I found that morning with Christine one of the most moving and tragic of the entire story.  I was faced with a tormented and sensitive woman who had been drawn into the whole catastrophe right at the very last minute.  She was almost a stranger, yet so deeply and instrinsically involved.  The previous month had been an absolute nightmare for her.  With little sympathy or understanding from her husband, Christine had been unable to speak freely with anyone or find out anything in detail.  The press cuttings Peter had sent her had been very misleading, and the few brief telephone conversations with her parents had been extremely restricted because her other children didn't know about Bambs and might overhear"

If Christine's husband was unsupportive after the tragedy and her other children were unaware of Sheila would it really have been possible for Christine to meet Sheila's expectations?  After the initial meeting did reality set in and was this another let down in Sheila's eyes along with sadly her failed marriage and modelling career? 

Also I note from witness statements that Essex Police receovered about 6/7 letters from Christine sent by Sheila from the beginning of 1985.  However Wilkes' and Colin's books and Barbara Babic , the social worker first assigned for Sheila/twins care, appear to state that the correspondence started well before 1985?  I assume Essex Police deemed it only necessary to go back as far as beginning of '85 to get a picture of the state of the relationship and whether Sheila had revealed anything which might have given an indication at to what happened?

Caroline R

  • Guest
Re: Route from whf to head street
« Reply #288 on: November 30, 2012, 06:42:PM »
Hello Caroline

Thank you for retrieving the statement.  Reading it through made me think back to a couple of points in Colin's book (omg I'm sounding like Steve_uk referring to the books) :

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3603.0;attach=27506

Where it states that Sheila met with her natural mother in May this would have been some 14 - 10 weeks before the murders dependent on when in May they met.  Apparently the press got wind of this and published articles to the effect that this in some way had an adverse effect on Sheila.  Colin stated that the meeting went well and that Sheila found her natural mother, Christine, was everything that June wasn't.  If what Colin says in his book is true then the relationship between June and Sheila could only be described as extremely toxic.  Apparently Sheila had hopes of spending more time with Christine.  However, I wonder how this would have been possible as firstly there was the geographical distance to overcome with Christine being based in Canada.  Secondly, and more importantly, the book states the following:

"I found that morning with Christine one of the most moving and tragic of the entire story.  I was faced with a tormented and sensitive woman who had been drawn into the whole catastrophe right at the very last minute.  She was almost a stranger, yet so deeply and instrinsically involved.  The previous month had been an absolute nightmare for her.  With little sympathy or understanding from her husband, Christine had been unable to speak freely with anyone or find out anything in detail.  The press cuttings Peter had sent her had been very misleading, and the few brief telephone conversations with her parents had been extremely restricted because her other children didn't know about Bambs and might overhear"

If Christine's husband was unsupportive after the tragedy and her other children were unaware of Sheila would it really have been possible for Christine to meet Sheila's expectations?  After the initial meeting did reality set in and was this another let down in Sheila's eyes along with sadly her failed marriage and modelling career? 

Also I note from witness statements that Essex Police receovered about 6/7 letters from Christine sent by Sheila from the beginning of 1985.  However Wilkes' and Colin's books and Barbara Babic , the social worker first assigned for Sheila/twins care, appear to state that the correspondence started well before 1985?  I assume Essex Police deemed it only necessary to go back as far as beginning of '85 to get a picture of the state of the relationship and whether Sheila had revealed anything which might have given an indication at to what happened?

Hi Nanu,

Very interesting! I thought the fact that Christine hadn't told her other children about Sheila, rather odd given that they were trying to establish a relationship. I guess all in all it was quite an emotive time for Sheila, meeting her mother, being hospitalised, rejected by Colin and seeing him settled with Heather - and god knows what else within the confines of the family. Wilke's book arrived to day so I shall let you know what think about it :)