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Offline Bridget

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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2012, 09:45:PM »
Two indications:an empty cartridge case was found suggesting that the gun hadn't fired,and one of the raid team broke a nail trying re-enact loading the anschutz.

Do you mean an unspent cartridge? Also, I believe it was someone at the lab who broke a nail, not one of the raid team.
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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2012, 09:46:PM »
Do you mean an unspent cartridge? Also, I believe it was someone at the lab who broke a nail, not one of the raid team.

You are right Bridget....2-2 Ha!  :) :)

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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2012, 09:49:PM »
You are right Bridget....2-2 Ha!  :) :)

It comes to something when you have to rely on me to score your points for you.. ;)
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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2012, 10:00:PM »
It comes to something when you have to rely on me to score your points for you.. ;)

Nice to see you Bridget, it was a plot to make you come out to play.... :) :) :) :)

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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2012, 10:12:PM »
Nice to see you Bridget, it was a plot to make you come out to play.... :) :) :) :)

Ah... and I fell for it.. :)
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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2012, 10:14:PM »
Ah... and I fell for it.. :)


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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2012, 10:15:PM »

By jove,Bridget,you're losing the touch. ;D

Now I know she loves me....lol  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2012, 10:17:PM »
Well now that you have me what do you have planned for me, or shouldn't I ask?  :)
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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2012, 10:19:PM »
Well now that you have me what do you have planned for me, or shouldn't I ask?  :)

Folk could take that as being something else  Ooh la la! ....Anyway, I am off to bed now are you coming? Ha!  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #54 on: October 18, 2012, 10:35:PM »
Folk could take that as being something else  Ooh la la! ....Anyway, I am off to bed now are you coming? Ha!  :) :) :) :)

I won't be far behind you - that's for sure!
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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2012, 11:25:PM »
Two indications:an empty cartridge case was found suggesting that the gun hadn't fired,and one of the raid team broke a nail trying re-enact loading the anschutz.
Ouch! That'll teach him to keep his nails cut. Erm, I'm confused? How does an empty cartridge case indicate that the gun had not fired? If the cartridge case was empty is had no bullet in it, than that means surely that it HAD fired? Please explain Steve.

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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2012, 11:39:PM »
Ouch! That'll teach him to keep his nails cut. Erm, I'm confused? How does an empty cartridge case indicate that the gun had not fired? If the cartridge case was empty is had no bullet in it, than that means surely that it HAD fired? Please explain Steve.

A shell had been found at a point in the house where no shot had been fired. The murder weapon also jammed for ballistics expert Malcolm Fletcher under the eyes of the jury at Fingringhoe Ranges,25 miles from Chelmsford.

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« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2012, 11:44:PM »
Ah... and I fell for it.. :)
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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2012, 11:02:AM »
A shell had been found at a point in the house where no shot had been fired. The murder weapon also jammed for ballistics expert Malcolm Fletcher under the eyes of the jury at Fingringhoe Ranges,25 miles from Chelmsford.
I've been to Fingringhoe ranges. Gotta keep your head down as you drive through it. I don't trust the red flag proceedure.  ;D

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Re: Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...
« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2013, 07:32:PM »
A round has a brass case, and lead bullet, if you only touch brass you cannot get a result for lead, unless you handle lead - prove that nobody could handle/load rounds into gun without there being any traces of lead on the hands/fingers?

Who's to say the ammo used in the shootings was not eley sub-sonic? but high-velocity rounds were the bullet is copper plated. Since my last laptop died, I will have to re-build my research over again! :(

There is a log, stating high-speed loads were used in one magazine 10shots? and eleys, and the EP came back to the scene to remove the eley subs to false evidence against Jeremy?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2013, 07:34:PM by packagebuilder »
500ml of Chloroform is next :P
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