Police obtained British Telecom records showing calls to/from white house farm..

[mike tesko]

Police obtained British Telecom records showing calls to/from white house farm..

"Showing calls into and from Whitehouse farm":-

[mike tesko]

These telephone records were obtained by DC 1929 WOOD, on 11th October 1985, at 17:10 hours, and kept by Essex police and logged in a major incident property register book 5, at entries 597, 598 and 599...

Further information contained in a witness statement numbered 439, and PDF index 355...

[mike tesko]

It clearly states that calls going into and from whitehouse farm had been obtained, which contradicts what many posters on the forum have said did not and could not have happened back in August 1985 - well, here is part of the proof that police knew exactly which calls were made to and from the scene (whf), so bearing in mind that police did obtain this information, it was/is possible to confirm that police were satisfied that a call had been made from the scene to Jeremys cottage, and another call had been made to the police...

[mike tesko]

It clearly states that calls going into and from whitehouse farm had been obtained, which contradicts what many posters on the forum have said did not and could not have happened back in August 1985 - well, here is part of the proof that police knew exactly which calls were made to and from the scene (whf), so bearing in mind that police did obtain this information, it was/is possible to confirm that police were satisfied that a call had been made from the scene to Jeremys cottage, and another call had been made to the police...

As always maintained by myself for yonks...

[lookout]

I believe every word,Mike.
What I don't believe is that it WASN'T Sheilas' blood in the silencer.100% disbelief.

[lookout]

I believe every word,Mike.
What I don't believe is that it WAS Sheilas' blood in the silencer.100% disbelief.

I'll correct that. That I don't believe that it WAS Sheilas' blood in the silencer. ( wrong tenses )

[jim ignatowski]

As always maintained by myself for yonks...

this document shows nothing of the sort!!!
it refers to a telegram and international calls
where does this document refer to local (or even national) calls?
what i don't understand is why you bother to post this document when you have assured this forum that you have the actual logs in your possession

[Jane]

this document shows nothing of the sort!!!
it refers to a telegram and international calls
where does this document refer to local (or even national) calls?
what i don't understand is why you bother to post this document when you have assured this forum that you have the actual logs in your possession

Whilst you may be correct, IMO and relying on the given punctuation marks, the document doesn't appear to say that the ONLY calls it alludes to are the overseas calls and the telegram.

[Bridget]

Whilst you may be correct, IMO and relying on the given punctuation marks, the document doesn't appear to say that the ONLY calls it alludes to are the overseas calls and the telegram.

No, but it seems to relate to those log things Mike posted a couple of months ago and which showed only overseas calls and calls to or from various hospital payphones.

[jim ignatowski]

Whilst you may be correct, IMO and relying on the given punctuation marks, the document doesn't appear to say that the ONLY calls it alludes to are the overseas calls and the telegram.

but the request to bt  for details of tel calls to/from whf was in the context of local calls at about 3.30 am on a certain day
do you seriously believe that bt would have highlighted a single telegram and a number of international calls if bt was able to identify those local calls
anyway, mike has the tel logs which show those local calls but refuses to post them !!!

[Lugg]

It would of course be better to see records of local calls to and from WHF and likewise JB's home. However in the 1980's it was quite possible for the police to obtain such information although BT did not then provide records for its customers until much later.
But I suggest that not only were the police able to gather such information, they in fact did. As at that time as I have mentioned before JB was under surveilance at that perticular time.
But of course that does not help with this particular document here, which unfortunately is not much help without the actual readouts of local calls?

[lookout]

but the request to bt  for details of tel calls to/from whf was in the context of local calls at about 3.30 am on a certain day
do you seriously believe that bt would have highlighted a single telegram and a number of international calls if bt was able to identify those local calls
anyway, mike has the tel logs which show those local calls but refuses to post them !!!

Mike is saving,and I imagine has saved a lot of information,,,for a rainy day,,which is his prerogative I think.

[Jane]

but the request to bt  for details of tel calls to/from whf was in the context of local calls at about 3.30 am on a certain day
do you seriously believe that bt would have highlighted a single telegram and a number of international calls if bt was able to identify those local calls
anyway, mike has the tel logs which show those local calls but refuses to post them !!!

Have re read it and I'm seeing three seperate items. Calls in and out of WHF. Telegram. Calls to Australia and New Zealand. I will agree that it's ambiguous.

[jim ignatowski]

Mike is saving,and I imagine has saved a lot of information,,,for a rainy day,,which is his prerogative I think.

well, jb has had 9,877 rainy days - i don't suppose that jb is all that bothered about waiting a few more thousand
i'm sorry april but, in my opinion, mike simply doesn't possess these tel logs - he never has, doesn't now and never will
in my opinion, it's complete fantasy/bullshit

[lookout]

BT were never on the ball in the 80's as I recall. I remember writing and asking them for an itemised bill over a query that I'd  had.