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Offline mike tesko

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The deaths of the three adult victims, Ralph Bamber, June Bamber, and Sheila Caffell, were still being investigated as suspicious deaths on the date thier bodies were cremated:-
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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 08:20:PM »
The deaths of the three adult victims, Ralph Bamber, June Bamber, and Sheila Caffell, were still being investigated as suspicious deaths on the date thier bodies were cremated:-
I've always thought this strange. Assuming SC was the killer,why were the other 4 cremated?
Whose clever idea was that?
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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 08:29:PM »
A cremation can be stopped but it takes a very good reason to.

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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 08:36:PM »
A cremation can be stopped but it takes a very good reason to.
I've always been under the impression murder victims have to be buried,not cremated,in case of the need for additional autopsy?
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2012, 08:37:PM »
I've always been under the impression murder victims have to be buried,not cremated,in case of the need for additional autopsy?

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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2012, 08:43:PM »
I've always been under the impression murder victims have to be buried,not cremated,in case of the need for additional autopsy?


I was under the same impression, as were others I assume, because there was a local sense of disbelief at the cremations.

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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 02:21:AM »
An issue which the Boutflours and Eatons put very strongly to bamber at the time, as they all believed their wish was to be buried. Bamber insisted on cremation. Hence the twins were buried, as it was up to Colin.
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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2012, 05:24:AM »
Its easy to blame Jeremy for everything...

Fact is Police could have prevented the cremations from taking place because of behind the scenes activities taking place and going on - the bodies would need to be rexamined again in the event that someone got arrested and charged with all five murders. It simply is not good enough for the police to say that all the necessary tests had been carried out on the bodies of the cremated victims before the cremations took place - look what has happened with all the evidence the police obtained when they had control of the bodies? They have tampered with and withheld so much information it beggars belief. If the bodies had not been cremated the defence would have been able to commission thier own exprrts to examine the corpses rather than having to rely upon expert witnesses who based thier opinion on the police expert opinion...
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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2012, 07:37:AM »
An issue which the Boutflours and Eatons put very strongly to bamber at the time, as they all believed their wish was to be buried. Bamber insisted on cremation. Hence the twins were buried, as it was up to Colin.

So, we have the relatives strongly suspecting Jeremy as being the killer, relatives who prior to the cremations taking place of having already made several visits to the police station to voice thier concerns to senior officers that Sheila couldn't have done it, and that Jeremy was the killer, relatives who had already found a bloodstained/paint contaminated silencer in a gun cupboard, who are asking Jeremy not to cremate the bodies, and when he refuses the suggestion, the relatives do nothing, they don't kick up a fuss at all, or make any representations at all to the police, that in support of thier belief that Jeremy was/is the killer, that by allowing the cremations to go ahead, jeremy is disposing of the bodies to prevent further tests being carried out on them?

Relatives then meekly atrend the funerals, and only find fault enough to query who the weirdo's in the front pews were?

Oh yeah...

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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2012, 08:49:AM »
So, we have the relatives strongly suspecting Jeremy as being the killer, relatives who prior to the cremations taking place of having already made several visits to the police station to voice thier concerns to senior officers that Sheila couldn't have done it, and that Jeremy was the killer, relatives who had already found a bloodstained/paint contaminated silencer in a gun cupboard, who are asking Jeremy not to cremate the bodies, and when he refuses the suggestion, the relatives do nothing, they don't kick up a fuss at all, or make any representations at all to the police, that in support of thier belief that Jeremy was/is the killer, that by allowing the cremations to go ahead, jeremy is disposing of the bodies to prevent further tests being carried out on them?

Relatives then meekly atrend the funerals, and only find fault enough to query who the weirdo's in the front pews were?

Oh yeah...

Pull the other leg, its got bells on...

How do you know they did nothing?! I appreciate your loathing for the relatives but talking about them in this manner and consistently treating them with utter contempt will not advance your case.
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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2012, 09:54:AM »
How do you know they did nothing?! I appreciate your loathing for the relatives but talking about them in this manner and consistently treating them with utter contempt will not advance your case.

Try and find out what David Boutflour did with the flake of blood he scraped off the silencer when he tampered with it? Jury ought to have been told all about this...
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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2012, 10:02:AM »
Try and find out what David Boutflour did with the flake of blood he scraped off the silencer when he tampered with it? Jury ought to have been told all about this...

Glad you brought that up again, what makes you say he scraped it off? He actually says that there was a blob thick enough to be scraped off, not that he actually did it.
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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2012, 12:19:PM »
Glad you brought that up again, what makes you say he scraped it off? He actually says that there was a blob thick enough to be scraped off, not that he actually did it.

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Re: Deaths were still being treated as suspicious at time of Cremations...
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2012, 12:29:PM »
Read this:-
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