The RIDDLE of the BACK STAIRCASE.

[Lugg]

Yes Maggie, thank you, that is the one -kitchen 13. This picture is atad clearer. I can make out the dark haired head near or on the doorstep. The left arm, near the door,  has a flash of white( or light on it) making it more imprecise. I am sure now that there is a form (or body) there.

I am told that if you look at Mars for long enough through a telescope you can see canals as well. That says just how clear this photograph is. As for me it just makes me go bosseyed.

[tyler]

Blue item does not look like socks to me! It has white material attached like it is a skirt or petticoat? Is it trailing out of yet another bucket?

[Caroline R]

Blue item does not look like socks to me! It has white material attached like it is a skirt or petticoat? Is it trailing out of yet another bucket?

That's why I thought looked like a one of those blue and white disposable cloths.

[mike tesko]

Ammunition magazine, was photographed on the kitchen settle, exactly where Jeremy told the firearms team that he had left it, before going home to his cottage, at 9 Head Street, Goldhanger, on the settle in the kitchen - so, how many bullets were still inside the ammunition magazine, photographed? ...

[mike tesko]

Ammunition magazine, was photographed on the kitchen settle, exactly where Jeremy told the firearms team that he had left it, before going home to his cottage, at 9 Head Street, Goldhanger, on the settle in the kitchen - so, how many bullets were still inside the ammunition magazine, photographed? ...

The police plot, thickens...

[mike tesko]

Hey, let me draw your attention to the following FACTS - A full magazine of bullets, photographed on the settle in the kitchen by police...

Sheila's hand covering the ammunition magazine, to prevent anyone from being able to tell if the ammunition magazine had still got rounds loaded into it...


10 bullets not linked to anshulz rifle...

14 bullet cases, identified by exhibit mark, MDF/100 kept at lab...

At least 1 shot fired by police...

Total number of shots fired during shootings, 25...

[Caroline R]

Hey, let me draw your attention to the following FACTS - A full magazine of bullets, photographed on the settle in the kitchen by police...

Sheila's hand covering the ammunition magazine, to prevent anyone from being able to tell if the ammunition magazine had still got rounds loaded into it...


10 bullets not linked to anshulz rifle...

14 bullet cases, identified by exhibit mark, MDF/100 kept at lab...

At least 1 shot fired by police...

Total number of shots fired during shootings, 25...

Hi Mike, I thought there were 26 shots fired? 8 Neville, 7 June, 9 The twins and 2 Sheila - which is 26?

[Patti]

Hi Mike, I thought there were 26 shots fired? 8 Neville, 7 June, 9 The twins and 2 Sheila - which is 26?

I think its 8 for the twins Caroline...there were 8 cases and 1 bullet found in there room. I will check thought...

Yeah it was 8....which is 25 shots in all.....I think Lomax comes up with 26 as well. 

[Caroline R]

I think its 8 for the twins Caroline...there were 8 cases and 1 bullet found in there room. I will check thought...

Yes, you're right, Daniel 5, Nicholas 3 

[Patti]

Yes, you're right, Daniel 5, Nicholas 3

Me and Harltey's Jam did a lot of research on it....and believe me he didn't have it his way....In the end we both collapsed and hid in the fridge with the beers lol 

[Caroline R]

Me and Harltey's Jam did a lot of research on it....and believe me he didn't have it his way....In the end we both collapsed and hid in the fridge with the beers lol 

Don't know why I had it in my mind that Nicholas was shot 4 times but it might be from one of the drawings that documents the bullet cases.

[Patti]

Don't know why I had it in my mind that Nicholas was shot 4 times but it might be from one of the drawings that documents the bullet cases.

There is only one thing that bothers me Caroline and please don't run away because I wont harp on it, its Friday night.  There are 25 shots, 25 case shells found.  Nevill was shot 8 times 6 of them were head shots 2 to the jaw and, 4 fatal wounds to head, yet there were only 3 case shells found in the kitchen.  I know the simple explanation to this is that one of the case shells attached its self to the underside of one of the raid teams boot.  If this is the case then its a miracle that the case shell landed in the main bedroom...Its can't be the case shell on the top of the stairs because that has to be one of the two downward shots to Nevill's shoulder.  Right I will bugger off now...lol 

[Caroline R]

There is only one thing that bothers me Caroline and please don't run away because I wont harp on it, its Friday night.  There are 25 shots, 25 case shells found.  Nevill was shot 8 times 6 of them were head shots 2 to the jaw and, 4 fatal wounds to head, yet there were only 3 case shells found in the kitchen.  I know the simple explanation to this is that one of the case shells attached its self to the underside of one of the raid teams boot.  If this is the case then its a miracle that the case shell landed in the main bedroom...Its can't be the case shell on the top of the stairs because that has to be one of the two downward shots to Nevill's shoulder.  Right I will bugger off now...lol 

Yes, it is quite odd, it's quite a big thing to get stuck in your boot, I'd have though anyone with that stuck to their shoe would realise?

[mike tesko]

Hey, let me draw your attention to the following FACTS - A full magazine of bullets, photographed on the settle in the kitchen by police...

Sheila's hand covering the ammunition magazine, to prevent anyone from being able to tell if the ammunition magazine had still got rounds loaded into it...


10 bullets not linked to anshulz rifle...

14 bullet cases, identified by exhibit mark, MDF/100 kept at lab...

At least 1 shot fired by police...

Total number of shots fired during shootings, 25...

who put the ammunition magazine back onto the anshulz rifle, after police photographed it on the settle in the kitchen, in time for PC Bird to photograph it re-attached to the rifle placed by police onto Sheila's body laid on the floor next to the bed in the main bedroom?

How many bullets were still in the magazine at that stage?

[campion]

Mike, a simple but I feel a relevant question for yourself, or NGB. Are the magazines for the Bamber Anschulz automatic  and the Pargeter 'bolt action' rifles, interchangeable?