Mike deciding to shut down the forum

[petey]

The doors open Roache close on the way out and this can become pro Bamber again

What is your purpose in being here?

Roch is a well respected former moderator.   Why are u here purposely criticising members.

To think that you claim your only interest is JB is laughable.

[guest154]

I actually regret the day I ever came to this forum. 

[petey]

Nope, but if that helps me get the position from Petey....sounds a bit weird that.. the job from Petey, I can be.

Being an Eastern European is actively encouraged in my recruitment.

Forget about understanding law. A good cup of tea maker and Eastern european are the new criteria required!

[HMEssex]

I actually regret the day I ever came to this forum. 

Really?

[Buddy]

I actually regret the day I ever came to this forum. 
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Trapped now Mat!. I have a story to tell about my accidental Knacker slip, but if you are going I will save it for a while.
Man up Mat, I promise I will not agree with you even if you are right.

[guest154]

Really?

Yeah, it's been a nightmare. Truly has been.

I actually regret the day I ever came to this forum. 
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Trapped now Mat!. I have a story to tell about my accidental Knacker slip, but if you are going I will save it for a while.
Man up Mat, I promise I will not agree with you even if you are right.

 

[Roch]

I actually regret the day I ever came to this forum. 

I've enjoyed most of my time on the forum.  But I've been totally caught out by sheer volume of what seems to be personality disorders.  I never expected that people could be so fucked up, that they would return your efforts at protecting them, with poison in equal measure.  I must admit that was very naive of me.

[Eric]

Roch,
At the end of the shift, you are a fair person and you have kept your dignity in tact. I wouldn't worry, you're not responsible for what other people do, say or think-they are.
Just look at it this way, if they need a kidney, they've lost plenty of people off the list  and karma. You would think in the position some people are in, instead of attacking it should be 'Can anyone help me please, my situation is bad?' but people are people.

[Roch]

Roch,
At the end of the shift, you are a fair person and you have kept your dignity in tact. I wouldn't worry, you're not responsible for what other people do, say or think-they are.
Just look at it this way, if they need a kidney, they've lost plenty of people off the list  and karma. You would think in the position some people are in, instead of attacking it should be 'Can anyone help me please, my situation is bad?' but people are people.

Thanks, that's very kind of you to say so.  I have to say that do agree with the red forum on this occasion... 'the Beltdown went Thermonuclear'.

[Liz]

As I can't respond to the thread that Mike posted (as it is locked) where he says he is considering shutting down the forum, I will reply to it on this one instead.

Dear Mike,

I may be the only one willing to say this, but if you do decide to shut this forum down, I believe you will have made the best decision. This site was really great at one time, but for months now has been  descending into utter chaos. Its nothing but a circus now, what with all the arguments taking place and the trolls from 'the other place' taking over. For Jeremy's sake, please DO shut this forum down. Those that are asking for it to stay up, I believe, are only thinking of themselves. They do not have Jeremy's best interests at heart. It's no longer about Jeremy now, it's just about them!

[Buddy]

Roch,
At the end of the shift, you are a fair person and you have kept your dignity in tact. I wouldn't worry, you're not responsible for what other people do, say or think-they are.
Just look at it this way, if they need a kidney, they've lost plenty of people off the list  and karma. You would think in the position some people are in, instead of attacking it should be 'Can anyone help me please, my situation is bad?' but people are people.

I have no complaints regarding Roch, or Neil. I think that Grahame may have come across as a tad bulish, and upset some people, but his heart is in the right place.. I think that the appointment took us all by surprise, including Neil, and Roch.. I think we should all consentrate on the matter in hand.

[curiousessex]

Bob

I think Grahame has been treated badly that's all and this has gone from being pro Jeremy to anti Jeremy

When Mike ran things it was good

I thought Mike did run the forum. If Mike does not run the forum how can he be thinking of closing it down?

Please explain?

I have to admit I have never considered the forum to be anti Jeremy. In my opinion the opposite would apply in general terms. Most particularly as the forum is arguing the case against Jeremy's conviction.

Confused...........


It seems to me, whilst observing from the sidelines, that it is the arguing among each other without reasoned and responsible adult debate which is the real issue. Not the forum going from 'pro Jeremy' to 'anti Jeremy'.

Think about it.

[Neil]

Can you please therefore PM me the IP address so that I can give it to the police.....

However; can I also remind you - your message stated you did not believe a photo had been posted..  please clarify.... Are you saying Roach is a liar?

Hello Steph, I was online when the photo of Mats boy was posted.  Mat and Roach were also online.  I reackon that I saw it within seconds of it being posted and immediately reported it to Roch.  It was taken down pretty much instantly.  Mat was outraged.

[Roch]

As I can't respond to the thread that Mike posted (as it is locked) where he says he is considering shutting down the forum, I will reply to it on this one instead.

Dear Mike,

I may be the only one willing to say this, but if you do decide to shut this forum down, I believe you will have made the best decision. This site was really great at one time, but for months now has been  descending into utter chaos. Its nothing but a circus now, what with all the arguments taking place and the trolls from 'the other place' taking over. For Jeremy's sake, please DO shut this forum down. Those that are asking for it to stay up, I believe, are only thinking of themselves. They do not have Jeremy's best interests at heart. It's no longer about Jeremy now, it's just about them!

I think my self and Neil didn't mind the odd case related argument but other non case related squabbles are more difficult to eradicate.  For every action there is a knock on effect.  If you are slightly over zealous in banning people, you are accused of stifling debate.  or you are accused of trying to get rid of poster who just happens to also veer towards guilt, even though the reason that poster is being challenged is because of non case related problems.  If you do not ban such people, then you get accused of allowing trolls to run riot. if you afford protection to a person on the same side as you, because you are concerned about their vulnerability, you are accused of being biased.  If your hand is forced and you ban such a person, they turn on you with an astonishing hatred that is quite difficult to comprehend.

The forum worked best when it had a good number of serious posters.  However, with the introduction of a sort of shadow forum, this level of debating was never going to become re-established.  The game had changed, the dynamics had changed.

[Liz]

You are a complete disgrace Jackie.

Absolutely, ngb! Jackie has really shown her true colours now, and I am sickened by it. The same goes for Stephanie Hall. What thoroughly nasty individuals they are.

For what it is worth, ngb, I thought you made an excellent moderator on this forum. You were professional and respectful at all times, in my opinion. And as for the crap about you spouted on the red forum, I never once listened it. When it comes from the likes of them, it means nothing! No, you have more people on your side than you think. The same goes for you, Roch.