How police pulled off the greatest deception of all regarding photo's of bible..

[Caroline R]

No, Jeremy Bamber did.

Well, if that's the caliber of your argument you have none!

[Caroline R]

Can't be arsed with this, a decent discussion ruined - glass of wine time I think. Night Mike, good luck 

[andrea]

Erm, it been done to the death on here.

Same posts but under a different thread, the burden is on you to prove bamber is innocent.

[andrea]

Something i said?

[mike tesko]

No, Jeremy Bamber did.

Did he, eckers...

So, how did he manage to do that then? How did he move the rifle from the bedroom window onto Sheila's body (after PC Bird took photograph 23) and stage manage Sheila's body on the bedroom floor with the rifle from the window and a bible? Who was Jeremy Bamber, superman? Now, stop being absolutely ridiculous, nobody but the police shot Sheila with that rifle, and nobody but the police stage managed Sheila's body on the bedroom floor with the rifle from the window after PC bird took picture 23. Examination of the photographic records, negative sequences and all the contents of the photo' schedules, prove beyond doubt that police doctored the evidence to support the claim that they found Sheila's body on the floor, when all along they originally found her body downstairs (see radio log contents), then when she recovered or regained consciousness they again found her collapsed on the bed, upstairs in the main bedroom, and then they moved her body to the floor and stage managed it to try and cover up for their failings during the execution of their duties during the raid...

police didn't go to all these lengths to frame Jeremy, they went to all these lengths to cover up for their own failings in handling and dealing with what was before them...

[andrea]

Mike, with all respect, the police didnt shoot Sheila that morning. If they did, they wouldnt need to have framed Bamber, they would have gone along with Bambers tall tale about it being Sheila.

[mike tesko]

If there is anyone out there who can prove that photographs 27 to 32 were taken before PC Bird took photo' 23, then please present your evidence for believing this / that to be true, so we can put this matter to bed once and for all?

[Steve_uk]

Exactly - just look at what happened in America recently at the showing of "DARK KNIGHT RISES, 2012" when someone who had mental issues killed no less than 12 persons in cold blood. Any sane member of the public who was thinking straight wouldn't even entertain the idea of shooting and killing anyone, let alone 12 innocent victims? This serves to highlight why someone with a mental illness like Sheila was suffering with and from, could have and did carry out such acts, inside whf...

James Holmes planned the murders many months in advance and is not feigning insanity in my opinion. It's one of his subject specialisms being a former neuroscience student.

[mike tesko]

Mike, with all respect, the police didnt shoot Sheila that morning. If they did, they wouldnt need to have framed Bamber, they would have gone along with Bambers tall tale about it being Sheila.

I am sorry but you are so wrong - police did shoot and kill Sheila after PC Bird took photograph 23, the evidence is there for all to see in the photo' schedules, the albums, and the sequence of events as they unfolded as recorded in the negatives...

If you can point me in the direction of any evidence which might contradict what I am saying then I will be only too pleased to listen up...

It's gonna be hard for you or anybody to find any evidence to contradict what I am saying about photo's 27 to 32 being taken after 23, not beforehand, and that the rifle in 23, is the same rifle in 27 to 32? I am prepared to be proven wrong on this by anybody or anyone, but produce evidence to back up whatever it is you find....

"Good luck"..

[mike tesko]

James Holmes planned the murders many months in advance and is not feigning insanity in my opinion. It's one of his subject specialisms being a former neuroscience student.

er...

that is not what his legal team are suggesting, I am sure here was some news recently about him seeking medical care a day or so before he killed everyone?

In any event, Sheila had had the idea of wanting to kill her children in her head for months before she actually shot and killed them during the incident at whf on 7th August 1985 (according to her psychiatrist, Dr Ferguson)...

[Steve_uk]

er...

that is not what his legal team are suggesting, I am sure here was some news recently about him seeking medical care a day or so before he killed everyone?

In any event, Sheila had had the idea of wanting to kill her children in her head for months before she actually shot and killed them during the incident at whf on 7th August 1985 (according to her psychiatrist, Dr Ferguson)...

No or he would have had to have informed social services had she had any contact with the children. The only person Sheila expressed dislike for was June,and this was understandable given her religious zealotry.

[mike tesko]

No or he would have had to have informed social services had she had any contact with the children. The only person Sheila expressed dislike for was June,and this was understandable given her religious zealotry.

She expressed a desire to her psychiatrist that she wanted to do harm to her two children, she wanted to kill them, if I am not mistaken?

[Steve_uk]

James Holmes planned the murders many months in advance and is not feigning insanity in my opinion. It's one of his subject specialisms being a former neuroscience student.

Sorry I mean he is faking insanity..he must know something about it being a former neuroscience student.

[mike tesko]

Sorry I mean he is faking insanity..he must know something about it being a former neuroscience student.

But no sane person would even contemplate doing what he did, so he must be insane in any event...

[maggie]

But no sane person would even contemplate doing what he did, so he must be insane in any event...

That is so true Mike, he looks such a dreadfull wreck as well. ....h