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Offline Patti

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Re: Jeremy's Alibi...
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2012, 08:21:PM »
speaking of which its 2 french bottles of bier and dallas, texans are straight talking gal likewise in North Lincolnshire, will be back later.

Come back here  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2012, 08:22:PM »
Hahahaha She did take to drink....but she loved him....awwwwww  :) ;) ;)
I think he drove her to it.....be warned 8) 8) 8)  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2012, 08:24:PM »
Come back here  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
See what I mean ::) ::) x

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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2012, 08:41:PM »
Not necessarily;it could have been the hitman hired by Jeremy.In any case the figure was reported by Jeremy first, who whereupon ducked down dramatically on Pages Lane..then there was a reported sighting of a male figure so it couldn't have been Sheila.

Being as the police had the house under heavy surveillance and the ability to teliport is still a thing of fiction - where would such a 'hitman' have escaped to?

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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2012, 08:46:PM »
Being as the police had the house under heavy surveillance and the ability to teliport is still a thing of fiction - where would such a 'hitman' have escaped to?

There was an exit out of the property through the sky loft as reported by a local tradesman..

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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2012, 08:55:PM »
There was an exit out of the property through the sky loft as reported by a local tradesman..

What? And then he flew away? This just gets more and more surreal

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2012, 08:58:PM »
What? And then he flew away? This just gets more and more surreal

Well I don't have to prove there was anyone alive in the property whilst Jeremy was in the company of Police. The whole thing was a sickening charade on the part of Jeremy for the past few months as he uncharacteristically sucked up to relatives in preparation for the morning of 7 August.

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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2012, 09:06:PM »
What? And then he flew away? This just gets more and more surreal

Or magic carpet, springs to mind...Mind you, he could have carried a ladder under his arm, whilst he rode a bike through 11 cornfields....in a wetsuit.... ;D ;D

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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2012, 09:07:PM »
Well I don't have to prove there was anyone alive in the property whilst Jeremy was in the company of Police. The whole thing was a sickening charade on the part of Jeremy for the past few months as he uncharacteristically sucked up to relatives in preparation for the morning of 7 August.
Steve, were you there?
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2012, 09:10:PM »
Or magic carpet, springs to mind...Mind you, he could have carried a ladder under his arm, whilst he rode a bike through 11 cornfields....in a wetsuit.... ;D ;D


.......and probably singing "It's a long way to Tipperary"!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2012, 09:11:PM »
Well I don't have to prove there was anyone alive in the property whilst Jeremy was in the company of Police. The whole thing was a sickening charade on the part of Jeremy for the past few months as he uncharacteristically sucked up to relatives in preparation for the morning of 7 August.

I didn't say you did have to prove anything - YOU mentioned the hit man (again) after just saying the other day that there couldn't have been a third person. The contradictions are yours, not mine. Oh and how on earth would 'sucking up to the relatives' help in the execution of a plan to murder his family?

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« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2012, 09:11:PM »
Julie Mugford was relating what Jeremy had told her about hiring Matthew McDonald,whether she believed this story or not. In Julie's statement there are other times when she is with Jeremy when she talks about the glove coming off in the fight(could this have been the pair of marigold gloves whose packaging was found in a nearby field),she mentions the plan the put Julie's pills in the parents' drinks,the  plans Jeremy had to burn down the farm which was rejected because the house was underinsured,then the plan that Jeremy had to shoot them all.

The Defence needs to rebut these statements by Jeremy recalling just what social talk did occur on the occasions they were together,as well as the conversations they had in the weeks after the murders. Those who believe Julie is recounting a tissue of lies need to explain why Jeremy telephoned Julie three times in total over the space of a few hours shortly before and after the murders and why during Police interrogation he was reticent to the point of taciturn,when an innocent man would be only too willing to volunteer the slightest snippet of information in order to prove his innocence.
I don't think it would make any difference at all if the defence rebutt her arguments or not? Also I have read that Jeremy was very helpful to the police and volunteered information freely. In fact he had been very open in what he said. I think that some believe JM much more than they should do. Taff Jones didn't. He was convinced she was lying. Tell me this. If the police believed she was telling the truth, why didn't they arrest her for being an accessory after the fact?

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« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2012, 09:13:PM »
I think she did believe Steve, but when it was found that McDonald had a hair tight alibi, she altered her statement. She said that she thought it couldn't be true...She also told the NOTW that he never admitted to her that he had killed his family. She confused me most of the time...She also mirrors what the family said in her statements too....Some wont have it that she had converse with them, but I think she did....IMHO.... :)
Yes she changed her story on several counts. This shows either someone who is deliberately lying in order to make their story fit. Or that she was undecided because she was driven by jealousy.

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Re: Jeremy's Alibi...
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2012, 09:16:PM »
There was an exit out of the property through the sky loft as reported by a local tradesman..
And a sheer drop from the roof. Unless he had changed from his diving suit into his Spiderman outfit by then of course?

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« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2012, 09:16:PM »
Or magic carpet, springs to mind...Mind you, he could have carried a ladder under his arm, whilst he rode a bike through 11 cornfields....in a wetsuit.... ;D ;D

Don't forget the marigolds! ;).