Jury convicted Jeremy of the murders, on the basis that police touched nowt...

[Moe Cassani]

Erm,,what do you mean by a limit.? Have I said anything out of place.? The answer is no. Just because you don't agree with my opinions doesn't give you the right to question whether I'm off limits or not. This is a forum specially prepared/mapped-out in which to discuss all aspects of this case,,and this is exactly what I'm doing. What do you mean by asking if I'd use what I've stated in a court of law.? Would you,,with what you have to say.? Only perhaps because what you say has been said before ( nothing new there ) What I have to say,,and what I've already stated,wouldn't be out of place in a court of law. It beats being repetative.
I'm certainly not twisting anything at all.On the contrary,,I'm going at it from different slants/angles,,using a bit of thought and logic. At least I'm coming up with different aspects about the case and not " nit-picking " toward any individual whose posts I don't agree with.

If you think you can do any better by proving Jeremys' guilt,,then carry on,,,but without personal attacks on someone who has a mind of their own instead of following in a sheep-like fashion.

I am sorry you just didnt read what I said at all. You answers are self-serving, highly defensive and puzzling to say the least. I said that what you said probably would not hold water in a court of law.
Neither am I 'nit-picking' If you are going to express an opinion on an open forum you have to be prepared to defend it. Taking the view that you do on Julie Mugford character without any proof to back it up can be construed as 'twisting' lookout. In anyone's book.
But hey, keep up the work, no offense intended you are a very good poster lookout. I enjoy reading your comments.

[grahameb]

Julie never went to the police in the first place. It was Battersby. Julie was caught in a lie and had to carry on, at risk of being an accessery after the fact. The wet suit is absolute nonsense. Just try and imagine someone cycling along the Goldhanger road dressed in that attire If the wetsuit top was discarded in the grounds of the farm, then Jeremy cycled home bare chested as a wetsuit cannot be put on over clothes.julie was not a good witness as far as the defence were concerned as she kept breaking down under questioning, yet made a remarkable recovery when questioned by the prosecution, that was the reason she was never called to testify at the appeal. I supposed it was down to who's lies the jury believed, and we know that 2 did not believe Julie anyway.
I suspect Jeremy donned his speedo's, and goggles and swam the river, murdered his family then breaststroked his way back home. It is just as plausable as the wetsuit theory.
Utter B******S.

Buddy, it must also be noted that Taff Jones didn't believe JM either. Clever way in which they managed to get him removed from the case. 

[Buddy]

Nice to have you back in the fold mate. Stick with it this time round.

[grahameb]

Nice to have you back in the fold mate. Stick with it this time round.

Sorry Buddy. But half these people disgust me in the extreme. We still haven't met up yet mate. Give us a call sometime. I don't know your number.

[Steve_uk]

Julie never went to the police in the first place. It was Battersby. Julie was caught in a lie and had to carry on, at risk of being an accessery after the fact. The wet suit is absolute nonsense. Just try and imagine someone cycling along the Goldhanger road dressed in that attire If the wetsuit top was discarded in the grounds of the farm, then Jeremy cycled home bare chested as a wetsuit cannot be put on over clothes.julie was not a good witness as far as the defence were concerned as she kept breaking down under questioning, yet made a remarkable recovery when questioned by the prosecution, that was the reason she was never called to testify at the appeal. I supposed it was down to who's lies the jury believed, and we know that 2 did not believe Julie anyway.
I suspect Jeremy donned his speedo's, and goggles and swam the river, murdered his family then breaststroked his way back home. It is just as plausable as the wetsuit theory.
Utter B******S.

Actually Buddy that reminds me-didn't the Police at Goldhanger say it looked as though Jeremy were wearing rather more clothes than usual..was it possible he had his wetsuit concealed below his everyday clothes?

[grahameb]

Actually Buddy that reminds me-didn't the Police at Goldhanger say it looked as though Jeremy were wearing rather more clothes than usual..was it possible he had his wetsuit concealed below his everyday clothes?

You mean like Superman? Sorry, but these stories are becoming more fanciful by the day. The things people dream up in order to "prove" that Jeremy did this terrible deed.

[Moe Cassani]

You mean like Superman? Sorry, but these stories are becoming more fanciful by the day. The things people dream up in order to "prove" that Jeremy did this terrible deed.

Starnge that............because that exactly what you have been accused of.

[grahameb]

Starnge that............because that exactly what you have been accused of.

Accused is one thing. Truth is another.

[Caroline R]

Actually Buddy that reminds me-didn't the Police at Goldhanger say it looked as though Jeremy were wearing rather more clothes than usual..was it possible he had his wetsuit concealed below his everyday clothes?

So, he has just committed 5 murders wearing the wetsuit, cycled back to his cottage where he has the chance to take it off or even dump it somewhere. But he doesn't take it off before heading back to WHF, he just puts more clothes on top???   

[Moe Cassani]

Accused is one thing. Truth is another.

I think you should remind yourself of that.........daily.

[grahameb]

I think you should remind yourself of that.........daily.

Your point being?

[grahameb]

I think you should remind yourself of that.........daily.

So you are accepting an accusation against me as being true without any evidence whatsoever? Is this the way you judge everybody?

[grahameb]

I think you should remind yourself of that.........daily.

Come to think of it. Why are you attacking me?

[Moe Cassani]

Come to think of it. Why are you attacking me?

Because I believe you to be the worst kind of hypocrite. The type that constantly swtiches into 'denial mode', tries to twist what people have said, or puts words in their mouth or blames others.
You see everything that people who disagree with you as a personal attack.

I will leave you to your self-paranoia and speak to more rational and intelligent individuals. It is a small wonder why the other forum have dedicated an entire thread to you. You truly beggar belief.
This is not a personal insult merely an observation (before you get all paranoid again)

[grahameb]

Please explain to me why the 'frogman theory' (as you call it) was........in your words 'crackpot' why is this theory deserve your scorn when so many others that certainly would qualify for this moniker from the innocent theory do not? Please let me know what is so 'crackpot' about the point that Bamber wore a wetsuit top to commit the killings - especially when his was myseriously missing from his wardrobe at home and he had to borrow one a few weeks later to go surfing with friends. So why would anyone suspecting he could have worn a wetsuit top so outrageous'?
I do try to look at the evidence 'flat on' lookout. I just feel a little tired of people wandering off into the ether of their own imaginations to the point that it becomes fact.

Blimey! your mind is so open that any intelligent argument falls straight through it seems. Are you seriously aguing in favour of Jeremy wearing a diving suit? The FACTS are that this diving suit was forensically examined and dismissed and released by the police themselves. Your suggestion comes straight from the crackpot diary of RWB.