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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #390 on: August 06, 2012, 10:44:AM »
Yeah, photographs, inside different coloured dividers, for use as part of prosecutions case, to support different features of their case - divide and conquer, that is what they did, they produced all these different albums, some without indexed referencing, to help them cover up for the other far more crucial images which they deliberately kept back from everyone - and I am talking of withheld photographs totalling 358, not disclosed or mentioned at all in either system (2) and or (3) schedules...

All the jury had were access to the 50 preselected photographs which were made up into the "COURT ALBUM" whilst the prosecution had all these different albums, with photographs included behind coloured divides, and access to the photographic negatives (not exhibited for obvious reasons) - jury had no chance of understanding the significance of the photographs being spoken about during the trial, it was impossible for them to follow and understand what took place, or even to suspect that police had tampered with the photographs taken at the scene, before 23 was taken, or afterwards...
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #391 on: August 06, 2012, 10:56:AM »
By reference to the "Stokenchurch registration schedule" (above) we now know that photograph 23 was taken before any pictures of Sheila were taken in the bedroom, which contradicts the testimony given by PC Bird during Jeremy's trial, where he stated that he took 23 after he had finished taking photographs in the main bedroom. According to the Stokenchurch schedule, photograph 23 was one taken showing an interior view of whf, which was taken before the first photograph of June Bamber (25) was taken inside the bedroom in question? According to PC Birds sworn testimony, photograph 23 was the third picture he took after he left the main bedroom, but by reference to the Stokenchurch schedule, the third photograph taken after he left the bedroom, was photograph 41 (last photograph taken in bedroom was of June Bamber, numbered 38)...

We therefore have many different possibilities regarding at what position in the grand sequence of events, that the photograph which PC Bird took from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs, showing a view into the bedroom with the rifle leaning up against the bedroom window, or at what stage it was taken at:-

08 - ?
23 - ?
41 - ?
59 - ?

How the hell could anyone be expected to know which reference, in which schedule, or system, PC Bird was referring to, when he testified, regarding the taking of the aforementioned photograph (23), and where in relation to this picture, other pictures he took of Sheila were / had been taken, before or after he took 23 ?
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #392 on: August 06, 2012, 11:05:AM »
By reference to the "Stokenchurch registration schedule" (above) we now know that photograph 23 was taken before any pictures of Sheila were taken in the bedroom, which contradicts the testimony given by PC Bird during Jeremy's trial, where he stated that he took 23 after he had finished taking photographs in the main bedroom. According to the Stokenchurch schedule, photograph 23 was one taken showing an interior view of whf, which was taken before the first photograph of June Bamber (25) was taken inside the bedroom in question? According to PC Birds sworn testimony, photograph 23 was the third picture he took after he left the main bedroom, but by reference to the Stokenchurch schedule, the third photograph taken after he left the bedroom, was photograph 41 (last photograph taken in bedroom was of June Bamber, numbered 38)...

We therefore have many different possibilities regarding at what position in the grand sequence of events, that the photograph which PC Bird took from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs, showing a view into the bedroom with the rifle leaning up against the bedroom window, or at what stage it was taken at:-

08 - ?
23 - ?
41 - ?
59 - ?

How the hell could anyone be expected to know which reference, in which schedule, or system, PC Bird was referring to, when he testified, regarding the taking of the aforementioned photograph (23), and where in relation to this picture, other pictures he took of Sheila were / had been taken, before or after he took 23 ?

Based on information contained in PC Birds own schedules (systems 2 / 3), and also by reference to the Stokenchurch registration schedule, PC Bird did not take any photographs of Sheila or June Bamber in the bedroom before he took photograph 23 from the vantage point of the middle landing which showed the rifle that killed Sheila leaning up against the main bedroom window (FACT)...

So...

This brings us back to the full schedule which is missing for the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM" (581) which contained information and evidence that PC Bird did take such photographs at the scene, before he took photograph 23? It is these missing photographs, which are of particular interest which will help to prove that Jeremy Bamber did not, and could not have shot his sister by use of the anshulz rifle which was leaning up against the bedroom window before the raid team set foot inside whf that morning...

PC Bird needs to be arrested and interviewed under caution about these matters, because he has committed perjury at Jeremy's trial, and is responsible (with others) for perverting the course of justice, and forgery offences...

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #393 on: August 06, 2012, 11:11:AM »
Based on information contained in PC Birds own schedules (systems 2 / 3), and also by reference to the Stokenchurch registration schedule, PC Bird did not take any photographs of Sheila or June Bamber in the bedroom before he took photograph 23 from the vantage point of the middle landing which showed the rifle that killed Sheila leaning up against the main bedroom window (FACT)...

So...

This brings us back to the full schedule which is missing for the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM" (581) which contained information and evidence that PC Bird did take such photographs at the scene, before he took photograph 23? It is these missing photographs, which are of particular interest which will help to prove that Jeremy Bamber did not, and could not have shot his sister by use of the anshulz rifle which was leaning up against the bedroom window before the raid team set foot inside whf that morning...

PC Bird needs to be arrested and interviewed under caution about these matters, because he has committed perjury at Jeremy's trial, and is responsible (with others) for perverting the course of justice, and forgery offences...

Missing photographs which PC Bird took of Sheila on the bed, with only a solitary wound on her throat, are the ones he took before he took photograph 23, which show the rifle that fired the fatal bullet (PV/19) that killed her to be resting against the window. This is evidence which helps to prove that a policeman shot and killed Sheila as a result of that rifle being taken from the window and placed on her body at a time when it was still loaded with ammunition, and whilst the barrel was being manipulated beneath her chin and the fingers of her right hand were being adjusted upon and around the trigger mechanism, "BANG", she was killed...
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #394 on: August 06, 2012, 11:15:AM »
Missing photographs which PC Bird took of Sheila on the bed, with only a solitary wound on her throat, are the ones he took before he took photograph 23, which show the rifle that fired the fatal bullet (PV/19) that killed her to be resting against the window. This is evidence which helps to prove that a policeman shot and killed Sheila as a result of that rifle being taken from the window and placed on her body at a time when it was still loaded with ammunition, and whilst the barrel was being manipulated beneath her chin and the fingers of her right hand were being adjusted upon and around the trigger mechanism, "BANG", she was killed...

Police then moved Sheila's body to the floor, and PC Bird waited around after taking an initial photograph of the wet looking blood running, leaking and pouring from the sides of her mouth etc, using a zoom facility to take such a picture, then he had to wait until the blood had congealed before taking unzoomed photographs (27 to 32) showing the same (distant) view (Camera was sat upon a tripod all the while) from slightly different or adjusted positions or angle...
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #395 on: August 06, 2012, 11:22:AM »
Police then moved Sheila's body to the floor, and PC Bird waited around after taking an initial photograph of the wet looking blood running, leaking and pouring from the sides of her mouth etc, using a zoom facility to take such a picture, then he had to wait until the blood had congealed before taking unzoomed photographs (27 to 32) showing the same (distant) view (Camera was sat upon a tripod all the while) from slightly different or adjusted positions or angle...
Yup perfectly plausible Mike,
Now can you please post the photo of her lying on the bed. If not, what is the point in mentioning something for which you cannot produce the evidence for? I dont get it?

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #396 on: August 06, 2012, 11:26:AM »
Non of the photographic schedules (or systems) disclosed, or posted, show evidence that PC Bird took any photographs of Sheila in the bedroom with the anshulz rifle upon her body, before he took photograph 23, which shows the very same rifle that killed Sheila resting against the bedroom window, from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs - all the evidence points to him taking pictures of the rifle on Sheila's body, after he took 23 of the rifle off the body. The implications for this being true are enormousness and cannot easily be dismissed, not by Essex police, not by the DPP / CPS, not by the CCRC, not by the Judiciary, not by the Home Secretary, not by anyone who has an ounce of grey matter between their ear-lugs...

In a nutshell, then, rifle was taken from its resting place of resting against the bedroom window, and "BOOM", it fired the fatal bullet (PV/19) that effectively killed Sheila. If this is / was true, Sheila did not commit suicide, and neither did or could Jeremy have killed her either - but the police did...

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(1) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEhy-RXkNo0
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #397 on: August 06, 2012, 12:19:PM »
Anyone who doubts what I am saying about there being "no evidence" contained in the photographic schedules (or systems 2 and 3) to support the contention/assertion made by PC Bird when he testified during Jeremy's trial, that he took pictures of Sheila in the bedroom before he took photograph 23 of the rifle leaning up against the bedroom window, should point me in  the right direction and show me evidence which contradicts what I am saying? No such evidence exists because what I am saying and what I have been saying all along is true - I know you don't like to hear it, but police shot Sheila with the rifle leaning at the bedroom window (23) after PC Bird photographed the rifle there in that position / location...

Show me where in any of the schedules that relate to the taking of crime scene photographs does it indicate that PC Bird took any pictures of Sheila with the rifle on her body before he took photograph 23 which shows the rifle that fired the fatal bullet that killed Sheila resting against the bedroom window?

You can't, nobody can, because Sheila was shot and killed by use of that rifle after it was photographed at the bedroom window (23)...

Evidence has been falsified to cover up the circumstances of exactly how Sheila ended up being shot dead in the bedroom, and police blamed Jeremy for doing what they themselves did, and have done - and the evidence for proving what they did and what they have done lies somewhere between what PC Bird said during his trial testimony, and the contents of the disclosed photographic schedules, one of which was produced by PC Bird, himself...

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #398 on: August 06, 2012, 12:37:PM »
Nope, sorry but the first 50 photographs listed in the Stokenchurch schedule match the court index exactly, except that photo 10 is missing. So that list is just a list of photos as they appear in the court album, and isn't in chronological order either.

The only evidence that could possibly refute Bird's testimony is the negatives themselves, from which he appeared to be working out the order in which the photos were taken. Maybe there is a contact sheet for them?
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #399 on: August 06, 2012, 12:41:PM »
Nope, sorry but the first 50 photographs listed in the Stokenchurch schedule match the court index exactly, except that photo 10 is missing. So that list is just a list of photos as they appear in the court album, and isn't in chronological order either.

The only evidence that could possibly refute Bird's testimony is the negatives themselves, from which he appeared to be working out the order in which the photos were taken. Maybe there is a contact sheet for them?

There wasn't until recently and i think Mr Sutherst has been dealing with that, but guess what, some negative strips have been cut up into individual negatives and I think 7 or 8 negatives are unaccounted for at the time PC Bird was taking pictures of Sheila's body in the bedroom?
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #400 on: August 06, 2012, 08:54:PM »
Missing photographs which PC Bird took of Sheila on the bed, with only a solitary wound on her throat, are the ones he took before he took photograph 23, which show the rifle that fired the fatal bullet (PV/19) that killed her to be resting against the window. This is evidence which helps to prove that a policeman shot and killed Sheila as a result of that rifle being taken from the window and placed on her body at a time when it was still loaded with ammunition, and whilst the barrel was being manipulated beneath her chin and the fingers of her right hand were being adjusted upon and around the trigger mechanism, "BANG", she was killed...

According to Andrew Hunter's book draft the first shot inflicted on Sheila was done with a sound moderator fitted..

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« Reply #401 on: August 07, 2012, 04:39:AM »
According to Andrew Hunter's book draft the first shot inflicted on Sheila was done with a sound moderator fitted..

Fitted to the other rifle found downstairs, the silencer in question was the one DS "Stan" Jones took possession of (SBJ/1) on the morning of the shootings, along with three other exhibits (SBJ/4, SBJ/3 and SBJ/2) - there were two sound moderators (Parker Hale silencers) kept at whf, not one...
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