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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #255 on: August 05, 2012, 02:01:PM »
Photograph 26,a view of Sheila and June in the main bedroom.Would a photograph be able to take in the both of their bodies?They were quite far apart (opposite ends of the room).

Aaagh...

on bed together I am afraid - you cottoned onto me so soon...

On the bed it is, together, exactly what DC Clarke / DS Jones, told Ann Eaton on morning of shootings...
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #256 on: August 05, 2012, 02:02:PM »
Aaagh...

on bed together I am afraid - you cottoned onto me so soon...

On the bed it is, together, exactly what DC Clarke / DS Jones, told Ann Eaton on morning of shootings...

No rifle on body at this stage....

Oh gosh...
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #257 on: August 05, 2012, 02:06:PM »
Aaagh...

on bed together I am afraid - you cottoned onto me so soon...

On the bed it is, together, exactly what DC Clarke / DS Jones, told Ann Eaton on morning of shootings...



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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #258 on: August 05, 2012, 02:08:PM »
Unless you have a transcript of Bird's evidence it is impossible to say what the jury were told with regards the order of the photographs. Given that the photo of the rifle in the window is numbered 23, your claim that photo 26 shows Sheila without the rifle, and then 27 and 32 show her with it, without further explanation the jury will have assumed that the rifle was indeed taken off of her body and then returned to it prior to photos 27 and 32 being taken. So no disadvantage to Jeremy there then.

I have the transcript - I have everything, more than you or anybody else can begin to imagine. I have informants, I have intelligence, I have the evidence that will lead to the quashing of these convictions, my mate Jeremy will be a free man one day soon...

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #259 on: August 05, 2012, 02:13:PM »



:-X

Photograph 26, you have not seen it, so you don't know - At least I have got, and seen another image of Sheila on the bed (with no blood running, leaking an pouring from corners of her mouth, etc.)..

Oh, gosh...
« Last Edit: August 05, 2012, 02:17:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #260 on: August 05, 2012, 02:17:PM »
You have no evidence that Sheila was shot by the Police, only that either the gun was moved or Sheila's hand was moved,you have no evidence that anyone entering the premises of White House Farm that morning heard a shot,it was DCI Taff Jones who as overall head of the investigation declared the crime to be four murders and a suicide and the lower ranks who were dissatisfied with that theory,there is no evidence that Sheila had gone berserk with a gun because no Police officer recollects talking exclusively to Ralph(Nevill) Bamber. There is no evidence of gun oil on Sheila's nightdress or evidence that she discharged a rifle 25 times,neither is there evidence of any physical exertion or sweat on her face from someone who had been in a fierce struggle with Nevill.

To counter this we have Jeremy's assertions to Julie that he must have a "mental problem" because he had no feelings at all towards the deceased,his assertion that Nevill put up a stronger struggle than expected as he fought for his life and in this fight a glove came off in the exchange.We have Julie telling us how Jeremy knew a way into the property avoiding the main thoroughfares through one of the downstairs windows,which he may well have left open before he left for the night on August 6.



What about JB's " mental problem ".? Emotionless as she exited the mortuary after seeing two little boys. Her own face showing no emotion at the funeral because she was too busy looking and waiting for Jeremys' reactions.
So far as Jeremy was concerned,,if you've ever had experience of peoples emotions,,you'll find that everyone's different in the way they express them. Just because you didn't see Jeremy in a heap,blubbering his heart out,doesn't mean to say that at some point it wouldn't " hit" him at some point in his life.
I don't " do " blubbering,,,as it's usually a sign of guilt anyway,,especially when you see them on television being interviewed by the press,etc. If Jeremy had acted in this way,,then I wouldn't be on this forum supporting him.

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #261 on: August 05, 2012, 02:21:PM »
Photograph 26, you have not seen it, so you don't know - At least I have got, and seen another image of Sheila on the bed (with no blood running, leaking an pouring from corners of her mouth, etc.)..

Oh, gosh...

The list Tyler was referring to when she mentioned photo 26 is a list of photos in the court album. Are you now saying that there was a photo of Sheila and June on the bed in the court album?
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #262 on: August 05, 2012, 02:22:PM »
Aaagh...

on bed together I am afraid - you cottoned onto me so soon...

On the bed it is, together, exactly what DC Clarke / DS Jones, told Ann Eaton on morning of shootings...

Pity you cant prove that Mike. 

Getting back to yesterday's theory..

(1) Rifle moved lower to fit with 'suicide' (2) crime scene photography... but with a dead female already logged downstairs and this photography recording wet blood, there is a problem (3) more crime scene photography from a fixed position, in order to record blood in a more congealed state from the same angle?  Once you have the congealed photos, all you have to do is bury the logs and the wet photos.  Hey presto.

Why has only one wet blood photo made it in to the public domain though?

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #263 on: August 05, 2012, 02:24:PM »
Unless you have a transcript of Bird's evidence it is impossible to say what the jury were told with regards the order of the photographs. Given that the photo of the rifle in the window is numbered 23, your claim that photo 26 shows Sheila without the rifle, and then 27 and 32 show her with it, without further explanation the jury will have assumed that the rifle was indeed taken off of her body and then returned to it prior to photos 27 and 32 being taken. So no disadvantage to Jeremy there then.

OK, I give in - here is PC Birds trial transcript, read it and do your best to try and discredit what I am saying - good luck:-

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #264 on: August 05, 2012, 02:26:PM »
OK, I give in - here is PC Birds trial transcript, read it and do your best to try and discredit what I am saying - good luck:-

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #265 on: August 05, 2012, 02:27:PM »
Pity you cant prove that Mike. 

Getting back to yesterday's theory..

(1) Rifle moved lower to fit with 'suicide' (2) crime scene photography... but with a dead female already logged downstairs and this photography recording wet blood, there is a problem (3) more crime scene photography from a fixed position, in order to record blood in a more congealed state from the same angle?  Once you have the congealed photos, all you have to do is bury the logs and the wet photos.  Hey presto.

Why has only one wet blood photo made it in to the public domain though?

Simple...

Training officers took photographs and video footage of training exercise in addition to the pictures taken by PC Bird (SOCO)...
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #266 on: August 05, 2012, 02:30:PM »
The list Tyler was referring to when she mentioned photo 26 is a list of photos in the court album. Are you now saying that there was a photo of Sheila and June on the bed in the court album?

Er...

I do not think so, no...

Definitely not a photograph of June and Sheila on the bed in the "COURT ALBUM" (50) , or the "MASTER COPY ALBUM (223)"...
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #267 on: August 05, 2012, 02:32:PM »
I knew my war of attrition would eventually succeed... ta in advance :)

You win, I am your prisoner, at your mercy...

Give me a few moments to configure how to post the relevant transcript:-



« Last Edit: August 05, 2012, 02:44:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #268 on: August 05, 2012, 02:36:PM »
Simple...

Training officers took photographs and video footage of training exercise in addition to the pictures taken by PC Bird (SOCO)...

That's interesting Mike but I don't know how it fits my question?

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #269 on: August 05, 2012, 02:42:PM »
That's interesting Mike but I don't know how it fits my question?

I will try to explain later, just trying to upload, trial transcript of PC Bird, at the moment...
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