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Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« on: August 02, 2012, 08:31:AM »
There are some pepple who are trying to guggest that frash looking blood which was photograhed running away from entry wounds on Sheila's neck is not really fresh blood at all - but rather that someone has enhancrd the photograph go create an illusion that it was / is fresh blood?

Some people will stop at nothing rather than face up to the truth - I will say to all those who are engaged in such activity,  just look at ghe CPR image of all that additional blood all over Shdila's face and throat, and then try to argue that all this additional amount of blood there was not fresh at some point after PC Bird started taking his pictures of Sheila at the scene?
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2012, 08:44:AM »
How did the additional blood get onto Sheila's face and throat if she was dead and her heart had stopped beating?
« Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 08:55:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2012, 08:56:AM »
There are some pepple who are trying to guggest that frash looking blood which was photograhed running away from entry wounds on Sheila's neck is not really fresh blood at all - but rather that someone has enhancrd the photograph go create an illusion that it was / is fresh blood?

Some people will stop at nothing rather than face up to the truth - I will say to all those who are engaged in such activity,  just look at ghe CPR image of all that additional blood all over Shdila's face and throat, and then try to argue that all this additional amount of blood there was not fresh at some point after PC Bird started taking his pictures of Sheila at the scene?

What you refer to as 'the CPR image' is a still from a documentary. No one knows the origin of it, where it was taken, or even if it is in fact a picture of Sheila, although I admit it looks like her. It could just as easily be a picture taken after she was moved to the bed, perhaps to aid removal, or in the morgue. Blood trapped in Sheila's mouth and wounds has spilled / leaked when she was moved.

With regards the 'fresh blood' picture, again if Sheila was moved even if only slightly you would expect there to be some leakage from the wounds of blood which is trapped. The general colouring of that photo is so different from the others that it cannot be said that by comparison the blood is 'oxygenated', which is the point I was making on the other thread.
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2012, 08:58:AM »
What was the delay between the taking of PC Birds first photographs of Sheila on the floor, and the time the CPR image was taken with all this additional blood present on her face and throat?
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 09:04:AM »
With regards the 'fresh blood' picture, again if Sheila was moved even if only slightly you would expect there to be some leakage from the wounds of blood which is trapped. The general colouring of that photo is so different from the others that it cannot be said that by comparison the blood is 'oxygenated', which is the point I was making on the other thread.

When police moved Sheila's body from the bed to the floor, the leakage you talk about occurred from the corners of her mouth, her left nostril and from the upper entry wound in her neck...
« Last Edit: August 05, 2012, 09:40:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 09:06:AM »
When police moved Sheila's body from the bed to the floor, the leage you talk about occurred from the corners of her mouth, her left nostril and from the upper entry wound in her neck...

Obviously I disgree that she was ever moved from the bed to the floor, but yes, that might account for it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 09:15:AM »
One of those pics is June,not Sheila. June was the one who was covered in blood,,though I fail to understand why,if she was shot in her bed. Another misguided story.

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2012, 09:21:AM »
Obviously I disgree that she was ever moved from the bed to the floor, but yes, that might account for it.

You have no evidence to support your theory that Sheila's body was never on the bed?
« Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 09:37:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2012, 09:27:AM »
One of those pics is June,not Sheila. June was the one who was covered in blood,,though I fail to understand why,if she was shot in her bed. Another misguided story.

BOTH PHOTOGRAPHS POSTED are of Sheila
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2012, 09:32:AM »
You have no evidence to suppott your theory that Sheila's body was never on the bed?

You say you have evidence to support your theory that she was but refuse to disclose it?
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2012, 09:35:AM »
BOTH PHOTOGRAPHS POSTED are of Sheila
(speculate all you like)...

If that's the case, and it is from a crime scene video, then it's odd that you've previously claimed that crime scene videos have been secretly withheld, this is despite the fact that Vanezis is clearly of the opinion that no video with bodies in situ, exists.

My guess is that it's either a mock up for a documentary, or a screen shot from a youtube clip which has had several clicks of "one click photo fix' applied in an imaging programme, which has increased warm colours, changing pixelated skin tones to a reddy brown.

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2012, 09:42:AM »
Sheila  would definitely have been lifted onto the floor from her bed,,because if she was seen to be spluttering caused by blood going down her throat,,then the recovery position is carried out.
Anyone who is lying on their back,choking,,you turn them on their side. It the obvious thing to do.
Her spluttering would have caused further blood to cover her face while lying flat.
Doesn't this make sense to anyone at all.? If you saw someone choking,you'd automatically put them on their side.
The crux of this though,is the fact that Sheila was still alive.Nobody has the cough reflex if they're dead.

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2012, 09:49:AM »
Sheila  would definitely have been lifted onto the floor from her bed,,because if she was seen to be spluttering caused by blood going down her throat,,then the recovery position is carried out.
Anyone who is lying on their back,choking,,you turn them on their side. It the obvious thing to do.
Her spluttering would have caused further blood to cover her face while lying flat.
Doesn't this make sense to anyone at all.? If you saw someone choking,you'd automatically put them on their side.
The crux of this though,is the fact that Sheila was still alive.Nobody has the cough reflex if they're dead.

No one coughed.
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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2012, 09:59:AM »
No one coughed.

How do you know.?

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Re: Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2012, 10:02:AM »
How do you know.?

How do you know they did?
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