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Offline Moe Cassani

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I am getting tired Moe and, I think you are picking on me at this time of night.

Ok quickly I will tell you why I think Sheila committed the murders.

1, She was ill, I don't like using the word schizophrenic, but I have to use in this case.

2, Windows I have highlighted.

3, She was too clean....I will expand on that tomorrow.

4, She had partially digested food in her stomach, which suggest she had eaten within 4 hours.

5, It is documented that she had episodes during the night, then she would appear calm.

6, She was a farmers daughter, she lived most of her life around guns, a child could have used that gun, the recoil was so small.

A criminologist will tell you that it is more likely that Sheila fitted the profile, than Jeremy.  Although, that is not evidence, is is worth considering important factors that make people with schizophrenia kill...

Take the lad in America recently that shot 12 people at a cinema....he was diagnosed with schizophrenia the day before the murders. He was ill....no doubt about that...but look at the profile...lonely, within, quiet, not with it, never hurt a sole....then flip! Many cases studies show that this illness is one of the most dangerous in our current times....

That's it now, I am off to bed....Night all  :) :) :)
I cannot believe that you are using these ludicrously spurious examples to prove her 'guilt'
Having a mental illness does NOT make someone guilty. I just cannot for the life of me understand why an seemingly intelligent person would use them. ALL of those examples are manufactured and tentative, I cannot wait to hear you reasons about Sheila's cleanliness............front row seats for that one Patti!
It dawns on me that many reasons on here are stretched to breaking point to try to prove Bamber didn't do it. I for one am a little tired of the mental heath issue being bandied around like it was a volleyball by those that really should know better. Maybe we should start the conversation off with talking about Bamber's psychopathy?? Of course it wouldn't be right or fair.

Has it ever dawned on you Patti that you may, just may be blaming a defenseless, mentally ill young woman that was cruelly murdered along with her parents and children? Bamber has a voice in which to defend himself.............Sheila has not.  If this is the sort of 'evidence' that you have been using to condemn Sheila Cafell (and you have loudly and at length) I am utterly staggered. I hope I am wrong in that you have more evidence with which to point the finger at this woman because from where I am standing you could not get a conviction for jaywalking based on what you have just said.

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I cannot believe that you are using these ludicrously spurious examples to prove her 'guilt'
Having a mental illness does NOT make someone guilty. I just cannot for the life of me understand why an seemingly intelligent person would use them. ALL of those examples are manufactured and tentative, I cannot wait to hear you reasons about Sheila's cleanliness............front row seats for that one Patti!
It dawns on me that many reasons on here are stretched to breaking point to try to prove Bamber didn't do it. I for one am a little tired of the mental heath issue being bandied around like it was a volleyball by those that really should know better. Maybe we should start the conversation off with talking about Bamber's psychopathy?? Of course it wouldn't be right or fair.

Has it ever dawned on you Patti that you may, just may be blaming a defenseless, mentally ill young woman that was cruelly murdered along with her parents and children? Bamber has a voice in which to defend himself.............Sheila has not.  If this is the sort of 'evidence' that you have been using to condemn Sheila Cafell (and you have loudly and at length) I am utterly staggered. I hope I am wrong in that you have more evidence with which to point the finger at this woman because from where I am standing you could not get a conviction for jaywalking based on what you have just said.
There you go being nasty towards the members of the forum again. Do you do the same on the other forum? I very much doubt it.

Offline Moe Cassani

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There you go being nasty towards the members of the forum again. Do you do the same on the other forum? I very much doubt it.
Tut tut Grahame there you go again. You really ought to stop trolling the forum looking for things to arm yourself with...........does it make you feel better?
I dont think what I said was in anyway 'nasty' Just a point of view.................remember that word Grahame.........'point of view' NOT a personal attack!
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Tut tut Grahame there you go again. You really ought to stop trolling the forum looking for things to arm yourself with...........does it make you feel better?
I dont think what I said was in anyway 'nasty' Just a point of view.................remember that word Grahame.........'point of view' NOT a personal attack!
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What's with the attitude?!

Debating and putting across your viewpoint doesn't have to necessarily lead to vitriolic abuse of other forum member whether pro or anti JB.  (I'm generalising so not directly claiming your latest post contained vitriolic abuse!)

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Tut tut Grahame there you go again. You really ought to stop trolling the forum looking for things to arm yourself with...........does it make you feel better?
I dont think what I said was in anyway 'nasty' Just a point of view.................remember that word Grahame.........'point of view' NOT a personal attack!
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Well if you can't see it then you must be blind. Oh dear Tim your slip's showing.

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What's with the attitude?!

Debating and putting across your viewpoint doesn't have to necessarily lead to vitriolic abuse of other forum member whether pro or anti JB.  (I'm generalising so not directly claiming your latest post contained vitriolic abuse!)
Petey..........have you actually read Grahames comments or what?

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Petey..........have you actually read Grahames comments or what?

I'm well aware of posts made by Graham and have openly disagreed with a number over the last year or so, which he is well aware of.

I just wish people would debate / discuss the case more, rather than the forum denigrating into various abusive posts from forum members.

To be honest I'd like to learn more about JB and his case etc, not whether you like / hate / respect Graham etc   (only using you as an example as this applies to everybody)

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Petey..........have you actually read Grahames comments or what?
I'm still waiting for your answer as to whether you agree or condone Tim Bennett's abusive comments towards my daughter. Do you? Yes or no?

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I'm still waiting for your answer as to whether you agree or condone Tim Bennett's abusive comments towards my daughter. Do you? Yes or no?
How can I if I havent even seen them! I know what you are trying to do. So you can forget trying that Grahame it is not going to work.

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How can I if I havent even seen them! I know what you are trying to do. So you can forget trying that Grahame it is not going to work.
I've asked you before. If you haven't seen them then how can you judge whether my insults of the other forum are not justified. You have just one half of the argument and because you have only one half of the argument then your judgment of me is unjust.

I ask you again. If Tim Bennett was abusive towards my daughter calling her a prostitute and a druggy and a goat would you commend his character or condemn his abuse? Its a simple enough question. Why are you finding it difficult to answer?

Also as I mentioned before. It is well know among Lamberton's own members that Tim Bennett has made very racist remarks. Do you condemn him for that or do you commend him?

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I've asked you before. If you haven't seen them then how can you judge whether my insults of the other forum are not justified. You have just one half of the argument and because you have only one half of the argument then your judgment of me is unjust.

I ask you again. If Tim Bennett was abusive towards my daughter calling her a prostitute and a druggy and a goat would you commend his character or condemn his abuse? Its a simple enough question. Why are you finding it difficult to answer?

Also as I mentioned before. It is well know among Lamberton's own members that Tim Bennett has made very racist remarks. Do you condemn him for that or do you commend him?

Why is it so important for people to condemn racist views, when they are not openly involved. I'm sure that nobody on this forum is racist or would ever make racist comments.

I myself am certainly not a racist, but do not see the need to condemn posts made by people i dont know, have never met, never will meet and post on another forum.

This may be stretching the point, but its like me criticising you for your failure to openly condemn Hitler's racist ideals.

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I've asked you before. If you haven't seen them then how can you judge whether my insults of the other forum are not justified. You have just one half of the argument and because you have only one half of the argument then your judgment of me is unjust.

I ask you again. If Tim Bennett was abusive towards my daughter calling her a prostitute and a druggy and a goat would you commend his character or condemn his abuse? Its a simple enough question. Why are you finding it difficult to answer?

Also as I mentioned before. It is well know among Lamberton's own members that Tim Bennett has made very racist remarks. Do you condemn him for that or do you commend him?
What goes on, on another forum that I have not seen I am not commenting on........Have you got that yet Grahame or do you need me to write it in capital letters?

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What goes on, on another forum that I have not seen I am not commenting on........Have you got that yet Grahame or do you need me to write it in capital letters?
Then before you believe what the other forum says about me and my family you should not condemn me without cause. And you say that you are open minded. What a joke. First go and read what they say about my daughter and then come back here and and say7 that I was not justified in defended them.You are not reading the case fairly. Notice the word "IF" in my posts concerning Tim Bennett. And you still will not condemn him for it. You I suggest are the hypocrite in all this. Condemning someone without cause.

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Then before you believe what the other forum says about me and my family you should not condemn me without cause. And you say that you are open minded. What a joke. First go and read what they say about my daughter and then come back here and and say7 that I was not justified in defended them.You are not reading the case fairly. Notice the word "IF" in my posts concerning Tim Bennett. And you still will not condemn him for it. You I suggest are the hypocrite in all this. Condemning someone without cause.
Groan............shakes head in disbelief.

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Groan............shakes head in disbelief.
Addition "shakes  empty head in disbelief". ;) Keep trying moe you'll get there one day.