Author Topic: Nick Rose  (Read 40156 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 17250
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2012, 04:17:PM »
yes a very diffrent story from the one that has been told.

Offline Margot

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 250
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2012, 01:51:PM »
I would very much like to know more about this case. I will study what has been posted and the links to other sites.

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 17250
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2012, 04:01:PM »
tjb do you know what this jammy dodger guy was convicted of.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2012, 04:17:PM by nugnug »

Alyce

  • Guest
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2012, 06:27:PM »
tjb do you know what this jammy dodger guy was convicted of.
I'm not sure nugnug but I will ask nick's mom and get back to you.

Offline susan

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16196
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2012, 06:34:PM »
Hi TracyJBH  I was just wondering if I have actually read that Nick Rose refused a polygraph or is this more made up rubbish.

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 17250
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2012, 06:35:PM »
thanks tracey.

Alyce

  • Guest
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2012, 07:42:PM »
Hi nugnug .. Have found out that Jammi Dodger got 9 years for robbery, but done 6, Thats all I know so far, He has been out for 2 years .. x

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 17250
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2012, 11:40:PM »
are so hardly a trustworthy source of information.

maybe we could do a website on him.

Alyce

  • Guest
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2012, 11:35:AM »
Hi TracyJBH  I was just wondering if I have actually read that Nick Rose refused a polygraph or is this more made up rubbish.
Quote from Nicks mom Kay re the lie detector:

.it's not as cut and dried as it seems, we have to weigh up all the pro's and con's, it would not get Nick out for starters, also if he goes down this route he could go back to a cat A prison, he is doing certain courses to progress through his life sentence, as at the moment unless we get new evidence we have nothing to work on...I am so proud of him as he is facing up to the fact that he may have to do 20+ years..The lie-detector issue did come up a few years ago and Nick was willing to take it, but our then solicitor Campbell Malone told us it would do no good at all....

Alyce

  • Guest
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2012, 11:38:AM »
Nicks Letter to his supporters re the Lie detector issue and bullying tactics of Jammi Dodger:

Dear Members,

I know I only wrote a couple of weeks ago but due to an issue that has come up I feel I should explain things. My Mum told me today that someone posted something on the group wall about the “Lie-detector” issue, it’s been going on for a couple of months now, it was put to me that the Sun newspaper wanted to print an article after I passed & after some consideration weighing up all the pro’s & con’s I have declined the offer & since then Jammi Dodger has been on the offensive about doing it even after I explained to him all my issues & concerns so much so he is upsetting my mum, which I’m not having, so now he’s gone public on the group about it, it’s my turn now to go public with my concerns, firstly it’s not & never will be recognised by the british justice system as it would open up all kinds of problems for them, so because it’s not recognised, to get it done it need to be approved by the likes of the home office, justice officials, prison governors & psychology department in the prison & whether they allow it or not one thing is for sure is all my progress goes out of the window & goes down on my file, all the people I’ve mentioned are the same people who decide on my progress through the system & eventually my parole (if no new evidence comes in), so either two things could happen either I could be sent back to the high security prisons or stay here for about 10 years when I’ve already been told that if I behave and keep my head down for 4-5 years I can go to a cat C prison which is where they prepare you for open conditions & release, as a lifer you have to be in an open prison to be considered for release, I lower my risk to the public with the courses I do & they are based on my previous convictions, that’s the only way lifers get released (innocent or guilty ones), that’s the official part of it & now for the personal part of it, I’ve spent over 8 years in prisons that they send the worst of the worst, in this time we have thrown everything into an appeal & I’m still not home, a few years ago my outlook on life was “if I don’t get my appeal in 10 years I would give up on life all together” I’ve been close to doing myself in twice since I’ve been in prison because of that outlook on life & still keep the last letters I wrote to my loved ones in case my head ever went again, because writing them letters was so hard, my outlook changed when I went to Long Lartin, because of a friend of my families who was there, he sat me down & gave me a talk & pulled no punches, he told me “Yes I’ve been dealt a rough card in life & don’t deserve to be in prison but look at the worst outcome of my life, if I get my appeal then it’s great but if I don’t get it & keep my head in prison & do my courses I’ll be home in my forties with a chance to live a bit of life” & then he told me some examples of other people who are worse of than me, if I’m honest he made me look small but I knew it was the truth, he don’t know it but he probably saved my life that day because I’ve changed my whole outlook on my situation & yes in a way I’ve half accepted I might have to do this sentence, the only question is how I do the sentence, one option is don’t conform & spend maybe another 20 years in prison or do it the way I’m doing it by behaving myself, doing the courses as an appellant & at least this way I’m progressing through the system to release & at the same time still appealing, I would understand people may not see it the way I do & may have concerns, but what I would say to them is to understand me you need to have been through the last 8+ years I’ve been through, also to know my innocent campaign is mainly based on evidence & the witnesses that saw Charlotte alive after I was seen with her & the fact is new evidence is the only thing that will get me back to the appeal court & not a lie-detector, it would ruin things in jail for me, all for an article in the Sun, who were one of the papers that wrote terrible things about me in the past.
I would completely understand if anyone wanted to leave the group if they don’t agree with my decision, it would hurt but like I said I would understand, I just had to write this to you all to give you my side of what Jammi Dodger put on the group.
The stuff about the way my outlook used to be may shock people but it’s how I was & the truth….
Sorry it’s all a bit of a downer again.

Take care

Nicky

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 17250
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2012, 11:55:AM »
well you can guarnte if he took  it and passed the same people who challenged him take it would turn round and say it dident mean anything.

Offline susan

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16196
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2012, 12:46:PM »
Hi TraceyJBH  Many thanks for that information on the polygraph test for Nick understand the situation now it has been explained correctly.

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 17250
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2012, 10:18:PM »
Hi nugnug .. Have found out that Jammi Dodger got 9 years for robbery, but done 6, Thats all I know so far, He has been out for 2 years .. x

i think this big bully might a taste of his own medicine

maybe we could start by looking at that dodgy looking company of his..

Offline wichfinder

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Posts: 83
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2012, 01:32:PM »
well if the sun says his guilty then he must be a quality newspaper like that would never make anything up.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 01:54:PM by wichfinder »

Offline rhodes

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Posts: 67
Re: Nick Rose
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2012, 09:49:PM »
Dear oh dear doesnt Kevin Craigie get about lots now on his lunch break.First nugnug and now wichfinder and Margot.The admins on here really need to get to grips with this.