Body of Ralph Bamber was stage managed before police took photographs...

[andrea]

Hallo, Ben  :D

[Ben]

Patti one stops bleeding when one is dead xx

remember she wasn't dead till after the second shot also...

[Ben]

Hallo, Ben  :D

Howdy.  :D

[maggie]

i think you find they don't...

I think you'll find that once the blood stops circulating that people do not bleed. The factt is poor June mayy already have been dead

[andrea]

remember she wasn't dead till after the second shot also...

Do you mean, Sheila? ben.

[mike tesko]

But surely, if the police "wiped" the rifle, it wouldn't, upon examination, have contained any person's fingerprints?
How on earth do you selectively wipe away fingerprints from any article?

OK...

In the stage managed photographs which PC Bird took of Sheila on the bedroom floor, her hand is clearly positioned, placed upon the rifle around the trigger mechanism, yet no fiongeroprints were found to be present on that part of the gun where her right hand was clearly resting, so how do you explain that / this? I will tell you for why, no attempt was made to fingerprint that part of the rifle because a police officer was handling it at the time Sheila got shot under the chin by use of it...

Now please explain to me how her fingerprints could not be found on this part of the rifle if her hands were resting upon it at different times and in different positions depending upon the stage when photographs showing this were taken?

(1) - http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4304;image
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[andrea]

But the police surley wouldnt have handled the rifle by the trigger?

[mike tesko]

But the police surley wouldnt have handled the rifle by the trigger?

Oh, but they did - and that was why they never fingerprinted the trigger itself...

[mertol22]

it looks like a DLR picture of Sheila with the rifle, i picked that term up in my early days.

[mike tesko]

The other thing is that because Sheila's hands were photographed on that part of the rifle, to be pondered is why tests were not done in the form of swabs to check that part of the rifle to see if adequate traces of lead deposit could be detected or found, including a swab taken from the trigger itself?

None were done, because police were satisfied that they were dealing with a case of four murders and a suicide...

[mike tesko]

it looks like a DLR picture of Sheila with the rifle, i picked that term up in my early days.

DLR?

[Steve_uk]

The other thing is that because Sheila's hands were photographed on that part of the rifle, to be pondered is why tests were not done in the form of swabs to check that part of the rifle to see if adequate traces of lead deposit could be detected or found, including a swab taken from the trigger itself?

None were done, because police were satisfied that they were dealing with a case of four murders and a suicide...

Didn't the Police doctor erroneously spot only one bullet would on Sheila,thus making the suicide theory more likely.

[mertol22]

DLR?

dont look right

[mike tesko]

Didn't the Police doctor erroneously spot only one bullet would on Sheila,thus making the suicide theory more likely.

Police surgeon, Dr Craig, said that at that time Sheila had what appeared to be a solitary wound to her neck, and this description was acknowledged by PI "Bob" Miller, who later reinforced that view at the opening of the inquest on 14th August 1985, when he told Deputy Coroner, Mr Thompkin, that the police were satisfied that Sheila had killed the others, and that she had taken her own life by way of a solitary wound beneath the chin...