The key(s) to unlocking Jeremy's cell door

[mike tesko]

No, it doesn't say it was a payphone, it gives an address, unlike the others...

In any event there were many other logged calls in the metered call logs on other dates, which were of different duration and which were made at different times of the day, which enabled the police to trace calls which had been made from whf between 6pm on Tuesday, 6th August 1985, and 8am, Wednesday, 7th August 1985. It was possible for the police to trace certain calls which are detailed in these metered call logs, because some were identified easily. For example, the call made by June Bamber to her sister Pamela at 10pm on evening of Tuesday, 6th August 1985. Another call identified which was made from the scene to the police at 3:26am, followed by the activation of the attack alarm at about 3:33am. Somewhere sandwiched in between the call made by June to her sister Pamela, and the call made to the police from the scene at 3:26am, was another much shorter call which satisfied the police that a call had been made to Jeremy's cottage from whf that night...

The call Ralph made to Jeremy...

[Bridget]

Along those lines numerous innocent people will have been found guilty merely because something which doesn't need to be proved, is said to be possible. Justice!!!!!?

Probably, but the fact that he could have got in through the windows was not the only evidence against him. If we were to take your line then no one would ever get convicted of anything unless there was say.. CCTV footage which clearly showed the suspect's face, and then someone would argue that there are plenty of people look similar. It's not a perfect system by any means, but it's all we've got.

[mike tesko]

Why would calls that were made from whf to call boxes be the only ones recordable under the metered call logs which were obtainable by the police? The Bambers would still be paying for such calls as they would any of the other calls made from the farmhouse, to anywhere, or to anybody?

[Bridget]

No, it doesn't say it was a payphone, it gives an address, unlike the others...

In any event there were many other logged calls in the metered call logs on other dates, which were of different duration and which were made at different times of the day, which enabled the police to trace calls which had been made from whf between 6pm on Tuesday, 6th August 1985, and 8am, Wednesday, 7th August 1985. It was possible for the police to trace certain calls which are detailed in these metered call logs, because some were identified easily. For example, the call made by June Bamber to her sister Pamela at 10pm on evening of Tuesday, 6th August 1985. Another call identified which was made from the scene to the police at 3:26am, followed by the activation of the attack alarm at about 3:33am. Somewhere sandwiched in between the call made by June to her sister Pamela, and the call made to the police from the scene at 3:26am, was another much shorter call which satisfied the police that a call had been made to Jeremy's cottage from whf that night...

What do you mean 'unlike the others'? There is an address written down for the hospital, but so what anyway?

Why are the only calls listed for the whole of March 12 calls to a hospital and one to the business in Frinton? No calls to friends, relatives, employees for the whole of that period? Pull the other one!

Oh and Pam called June, not the other way around.

[mike tesko]

Why would calls that were made from whf to call boxes be the only ones recordable under the metered call logs which were obtainable by the police? The Bambers would still be paying for such calls as they would any of the other calls made from the farmhouse, to anywhere, or to anybody?

It is also recorded in the typed billing document that information contained within the document amounts to ITEMISED CALLS...

[mike tesko]

What do you mean 'unlike the others'? There is an address written down for the hospital, but so what anyway?

Why are the only calls listed for the whole of March 12 calls to a hospital and one to the business in Frinton? No calls to friends, relatives, employees for the whole of that period? Pull the other one!

Oh and Pam called June, not the other way around.

Provable by reference to the relevant metered call log, for the period 6pm Tuesday, 6th August 1985 to 8am, Wednesday, 7th August 1985, no less...

And for your information, the details posted relating to these metered calls were part of the original SC/688/85 file, at a time when police satisfied themselves that Sheila had shot and killed the others and then taken her own life, so you pull the other one...

[mike tesko]

Provable by reference to the relevant metered call log, for the period 6pm Tuesday, 6th August 1985 to 8am, Wednesday, 7th August 1985, no less...

And for your information, the details posted relating to these metered calls were part of the original SC/688/85 file, at a time when police satisfied themselves that Sheila had shot and killed the others and then taken her own life, so you pull the other one...

This is the reason why the hospital calls were provided and set out on form M414, it was part of the original file (SC/688/85) which set out to prove Sheila was culpable, evidence which was discarded once the nature of the case changed into five murders under SC/786/85...

[Bridget]

For those that didn't get the message...

[tonyb]

Better hope the photos a lot clearer...

[Jane]

Probably It's not a perfect system by any means, but it's all we've got.

Yes Bridget, and flawed though it is, it's probably better than all the rest put together.

[grahameb]

What do you mean 'unlike the others'? There is an address written down for the hospital, but so what anyway?

Why are the only calls listed for the whole of March 12 calls to a hospital and one to the business in Frinton? No calls to friends, relatives, employees for the whole of that period? Pull the other one!

Oh and Pam called June, not the other way around.

I think she called June according to her statement and then June not being available phoned Pam back?

[grahameb]

Yes Bridget, and flawed though it is, it's probably better than all the rest put together.

I believe the very fact that these logs exist presupposes that further logs exist for other months. The question is where are they? In fact I think these logs should make everyone question themselves regarding further evidence that may exist. For if Mike has turned these logs up then what else is there?

[Jane]

I believe the very fact that these logs exist presupposes that further logs exist for other months. The question is where are they? In fact I think these logs should make everyone question themselves regarding further evidence that may exist. For if Mike has turned these logs up then what else is there?

Grahame, you're correct. One, of anything, rarely exists in isolation. Any suggestions gratefully received.

[tonyb]

Grahame, you're correct. One, of anything, rarely exists in isolation. Any suggestions gratefully received.

Yeah,if I remember correctly there were severel volumes of Hitlers Diary....

[mike tesko]

For those that didn't get the message...

Hasn't anyone noticed that pages 1 and 2 are missing, and whether or not there are up to 66 unposted pages giving details for consecutive dates including details as per 6th and 7th August 1985?