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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2012, 07:27:AM »
There was not found, not detected, not identified one microscopic piece or trace of any blood which could have remotely  originated from any wound sustained by Ralph Bamber whilst he was present in the main bedroom...

No blood at all from Ralph in the bedroom, is consistent with no blood having been found on the phone downstairs in the kitchen - you do not have to be a genious to work that out for yourself. Everything points to Ralph not being shot at all in the bedroom, a fact easily arrived at because there was non of his blood found in the bedroom...

If I am wrong you will no doubt draw my attention to it and provide references to your source for such information - non exists to my knowlege...


Morning Mike. I don't know how this sits with you but IMO, had Neville been shot when he phoned Jeremy, his wording would surely have been other than it was. He would have been less concerned that Sheila HAD the gun, than, that having demonstrated she could use it once, might use it again. "I've been shot. Come quick/get help" come to mind as more appropriate.

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2012, 07:28:AM »
Hi Bridget
You are correct, the note did not say anything at all about securing the window

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« Reply #92 on: July 13, 2012, 07:31:AM »
I did not say that Ralph(Nevill)was shot in the bedroom;I said he was shot upstairs. I just do not accept this Police conspiracy of fabricating evidence;in my mind it was more of a cock-up. There has been a £1million reward put up on the part of the Jeremy Bamber team to prove innocence which has not been claimed by any of the Police involved in the investigation.

If Nevill is not incapacitated on the landing or stairs one has to ask oneself why he does not attempt to arm himself with one of the many guns we are told are located inside the farm. Are we also to believe that a 6ft 4ins man who was a member of the RAF during the war succumbs meekly to Sheila during a telephone call simply because she depresses the switchhook with one of her well-manicured fingernails?

I am still looking for a realistic scenario which accounts for Nevill Bamber dialling a 7 figure number to Jeremy,when any normal person would have dialled 999 first.

I did not say Ralph had not been shot on the upstairs landing or the stairs,  I was making the point that he was not shot at all in the bedroom. There is a big difference between the two scenarios. Furthermore, I would be prepared to except that Ralph may have already been shot before he either called Jeremy, or before he called the police, or both, or before he activated the attck alarm which went straight through to the police...
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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #93 on: July 13, 2012, 07:31:AM »
Why unplug the kitchen phone and hide it under a pile of magazines? Nobody in their right mind would attempt to stage manage a crime scene and gainsay the orders of their boss DCI "Taff" Tom Jones,who was satisfied that it was four murders and a suicide.

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #94 on: July 13, 2012, 07:34:AM »
Could anybody furnish me with a possible reason for Neville's removal and hiding of his watch?

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« Reply #95 on: July 13, 2012, 07:38:AM »
Could anybody furnish me with a possible reason for Neville's removal and hiding of his watch?

I was wondering that.
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« Reply #96 on: July 13, 2012, 07:40:AM »
Hi Bridget
You are correct, the note did not say anything at all about securing the window

Well that puts a different slant on it then doesn't it.
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« Reply #97 on: July 13, 2012, 07:41:AM »
Morning Stranger Bridget  I read Nevill,s watch fell off in the struggle I don,t think he would try to hide a watch a cartier I believe when fighting for his life.

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« Reply #98 on: July 13, 2012, 07:44:AM »
Morning Stranger Bridget  I read Nevill,s watch fell off in the struggle I don,t think he would try to hide a watch a cartier I believe when fighting for his life.

Morning Susan - I tend to agree..
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« Reply #99 on: July 13, 2012, 07:49:AM »
Could anybody furnish me with a possible reason for Neville's removal and hiding of his watch?

It would prove to Police that he had put up a fight and had been in the location of the rug in case someone tried to move his body,or set fire to the farm,a last desperate attempt of a dying man to leave a clue that he had been overpowered,yet remained defiant.

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« Reply #100 on: July 13, 2012, 07:53:AM »
Hi april1  Another theory about Nevill,s watch is before going to bed he took his watch off and placed it on the table and it was knocked off in the struggle and just got underneath cushions on the floor can,t see any reason at all for him to try and hide his watch.

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #101 on: July 13, 2012, 07:57:AM »
Hi Mike  I was lead to believe that Ralph was shot in the arm on his way downstairs to the phone and blood was evident on the surface where the phone was sitting.

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« Reply #102 on: July 13, 2012, 07:59:AM »
So the note said nothing about securing the window? I wonder what Patti was reading then.

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #103 on: July 13, 2012, 08:01:AM »
I did not say Ralph had not been shot on the upstairs landing or the stairs,  I was making the point that he was not shot at all in the bedroom. There is a big difference between the two scenarios. Furthermore, I would be prepared to except that Ralph may have already been shot before he either called Jeremy, or before he called the police, or both, or before he activated the attck alarm which went straight through to the police...
So the alarm was defiantly activated,in what order of the other phone calls,do we know?
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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #104 on: July 13, 2012, 08:03:AM »
It would prove to Police that he had put up a fight and had been in the location of the rug in case someone tried to move his body,or set fire to the farm,a last desperate attempt of a dying man to leave a clue that he had been overpowered,yet remained defiant.

Morning Steve. Forgive me if I say you sound as is you've just put down a copy of "Dan Dare." Just can't imagine all that logic being worked through when some one is fighting for their life, BUT in fairness, I've not been in that situation.