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Offline grahameb

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2012, 06:03:PM »
I disagree Hartley. The argument over the windows could win a jury of today.  The silencer evidence can throw doubts to a jury...for it is not 100% certain that Shelia's DNA is on there; plus it might be proved that a silencer was not on the rifle during the murders. It's not a safe bet anymore Hartley...

I know JB was found guilty in 1986, but...and a big but...and in all fairness, the evidence was rather thin......

I agree the mere fact they destroyed the majority of the evidence when told not too...makes it very difficult....I suppose one might have to ask why so much evidence was destroyed when EP knew JB was intent of fighting for his innocence...  :) :) :)
The very fact the police destroyed that evidence on the exact day that they were permitted to is to my mind very suspicious indeed. I just wonder why the BGB are not really interested in police corruption in this case? Makes you wonder about the honesty of some people doesn't it.

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2012, 06:15:PM »
I disagree Hartley. The argument over the windows could win a jury of today.  The silencer evidence can throw doubts to a jury...for it is not 100% certain that Shelia's DNA is on there; plus it might be proved that a silencer was not on the rifle during the murders. It's not a safe bet anymore Hartley...

I know JB was found guilty in 1986, but...and a big but...and in all fairness, the evidence was rather thin......

I agree the mere fact they destroyed the majority of the evidence when told not too...makes it very difficult....I suppose one might have to ask why so much evidence was destroyed when EP knew JB was intent of fighting for his innocence...  :) :) :)

The prosecution indicated at the original trial that there was a remote chance of the blood not being Sheilas, the jury specifically asked that question.

The case against Jeremy is stronger now than it ever has been in my opinion.

I'll eat my hat if leave to apply for a JR isn't refused.
 
We could go back and forth all evening, but I'll still think you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Plus it would be pretty pointless. :P

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2012, 06:17:PM »
I understand what you are suggesting, but that is simply not the case at all.

The evidence against JB has not been weakened at all, it might be a fun thing for somebody protesting his innocence to cling to, but the reality is very different.

Take the window entry for example, the prosecution do not claim that they knew how Jeremy entered and exited the house, they simply demonstrated that he could have.

The silencer evidence most certainly would be admissible in court today, the crime scene would have been locked down and investigated more thoroughly (in my opinion) before it was handed over to Basil. The police would have found the sound moderator themselves, they would also have been able to carry out DNA tests using Sheila's DNA as a comparison rather than her biological mothers.

If anything, I'd say that the case against Jeremy has been reinforced considerably over the years, Jeremys defence teams opportunities have diminished a little more each time the CCRC responded to an application for leave to appeal and each time a Court of Appeal dismissed his case.

That's without mentioning all of the exhibits which have degraded due to the passage of time or been destroyed, which are no longer available to the defence, which makes questioning the original findings rather difficult.

Just saying Patti.  :P  ;)

A skewed slant that is Hartley.  Give you your dues, you've certainly got some loyalty.

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2012, 06:26:PM »
A skewed slant that is Hartley.  Give you your dues, you've certainly got some loyalty.

I gues the fact that you think my slant is skewed, is a skewed slant.  :P

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2012, 06:27:PM »
The prosecution indicated at the original trial that there was a remote chance of the blood not being Sheilas, the jury specifically asked that question.

The case against Jeremy is stronger now than it ever has been in my opinion.

I'll eat my hat if leave to apply for a JR isn't refused.
 
We could go back and forth all evening, but I'll still think you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Plus it would be pretty pointless. :P

You've been drinking lol  :P :P :P :P

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2012, 06:29:PM »
You've been drinking lol  :P :P :P :P

I wish I had.  :(

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2012, 06:36:PM »
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I'll eat my hat if leave to apply for a JR isn't refused.

There's a good chance that your hat will remain unEaton (sorry... couldn't help it  :-[)

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2012, 06:40:PM »
There's a good chance that your hat will remain unEaton (sorry... couldn't help it  :-[)

Hahahahahaha  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2012, 06:40:PM »
Essex police = one blunder after another
Essex police= failing to secure a crime scene
Essex police= failing to collect evidence
Essex police= burning evidence within 24 hours
Essex police= contaminating hand swabs
Essex police= making a crime fit with the persistence of the extended family
Essex police= error after error in the evidence they collected
Essex police= destroy vital evidence that could exonerate Jeremy Bamber
Essex police= investigated by LP
Essex police = still withholding evidence
Essex police = have a great deal to answer for.

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2012, 06:44:PM »


Well said Caroline.  :) :) :) :)
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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2012, 06:45:PM »
I think we are playing snap here...lol  :) :) :)

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2012, 06:48:PM »
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The crime scene wasn't preserved

The argument seems to be deliberate vs incompetent

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2012, 07:08:PM »
There's a good chance that your hat will remain unEaton (sorry... couldn't help it  :-[)

I think you should stand in the corner with your hands on your head for that one.  ;D

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2012, 07:11:PM »
I think you should stand in the corner with your hands on your head for that one.  ;D

Blame Grahame... he lent me his 'Big book of jokes'  :D

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Re: Phone call to police
« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2012, 07:17:PM »


No, anybody else could not enter and exit the house undetected, besides that, the suspect pool was limited to two.

I know what Patti meant, but it's irrelevant, unless you have a time machine?
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