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Offline mike tesko

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Ask him Susan.

Of course it (they) exist, I would be willing to take a lie detector test if someone else pays for it...
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I have the copy evidence that could / will spring Jeremy from prison, I will do what needs to be done when the time presents itself, I refuse to be bullied by anyone trying to force me to do anything, rightly or wrongly - if I make the wrong move at the wrong time, it's all over for Jeremy, so I am waiting for the right moment. I am still waiting to receive confirmation that Essex police and the DPP/CPS deny the existence of such a photograph or a series of photographs showing Sheila on the bed, and June Bamber and Sheila on the bed...

Copy evidence is only admissible if the original is no longer available...

Think about it?

Mike, you've already waited 9 years for there reply,perhaps that's long enough for there response. I'm sure you could word a letter that will elicit a response?
Does a wait that long for a lack of response indicate that there not going to respond?
I would of thought the proof that SC was alive on the bed with JB outside with the coppers on the front of the papers will probably move the case into focus with the public and ensure the judiciary being forced into the only conclusion left, JB is innocent. Seems clear cut to me.
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Mike, you've already waited 9 years for there reply,perhaps that's long enough for there response. I'm sure you could word a letter that will elicit a response?
Does a wait that long for a lack of response indicate that there not going to respond?
I would of thought the proof that SC was alive on the bed with JB outside with the coppers on the front of the papers will probably move the case into focus with the public and ensure the judiciary being forced into the only conclusion left, JB is innocent. Seems clear cut to me.

Original is currently withheld under pii, which excludes copy from being admissible, it is a technical matter which cannot easily be overcome with any certainty, meaning that disclosure of copy would not guarantee acceptance in a court of law...
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Mike, the law adopts the "best evidence" rule - if an original document (photograph) is not obtainable (for whatever reason) a copy of the document is admissible in evidence - this is trite law !!!

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Original is currently withheld under pii, which excludes copy from being admissible, it is a technical matter which cannot easily be overcome with any certainty, meaning that disclosure of copy would not guarantee acceptance in a court of law...
Kind of catch 22. I had a girlfriend like that... You show me yours and I'll show you mine.....
She was a lying bitch  ;D
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Offline mike tesko

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Mike, the law adopts the "best evidence" rule - if an original document (photograph) is not obtainable (for whatever reason) a copy of the document is admissible in evidence - this is trite law !!!

if the original was being withheld under pii, that rule might not apply...
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if the original was being withheld under pii, that rule might not apply...
By that,it might. Sounds like we need a legal ruling on this one.....
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Offline mike tesko

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By that,it might. Sounds like we need a legal ruling on this one.....

A legal ruling or reference / reliance upon a previous case judgement dealing with the same /similar matter, yes...
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Mike, do you seriously think that any newspaper in the land would refuse to publish the photograph  if you supplied them with the photograph?

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A legal ruling or reference / reliance upon a previous case judgement dealing with the same /similar matter, yes...
Or indeed on this case / evidence. If the evidence is accepted because as you say,the original isn't available because of pii, then you win and JBs out. If the evidence is not accepted,the proof he's innocent is in the public domain,but he's still in prison.you do nothing,he's still in prison. Can't lose.worst case scenario JB is still inside...
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Mike, do you seriously think that any newspaper in the land would refuse to publish the photograph  if you supplied them with the photograph?

Yes, for a variety of reasons

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Yes, for a variety of reasons
The Sun will not publish the photo because as we all know the upright moral characters of their reporters as they refused to publish other alleged pictures of Sheila in compromising positions.

Strange thing though. Many people are willing to believe that those other pictures of Sheila existed and yet not one of them have seen them. Yet not many believe Mike when he swears that he has seen a picture of Sheila on the bed. Makes me wonder. Are we REALLY governed by cold hard evidence? Or are we all reall governed by prejudice?

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The Sun will not publish the photo because as we all know the upright moral characters of their reporters as they refused to publish other alleged pictures of Sheila in compromising positions.

Strange thing though. Many people are willing to believe that those other pictures of Sheila existed and yet not one of them have seen them. Yet not many believe Mike when he swears that he has seen a picture of Sheila on the bed. Makes me wonder. Are we REALLY governed by cold hard evidence? Or are we all reall governed by prejudice?

Mike doesn't just say he's seen it, he says he has a copy, and yet 9 years on refuses to do anything with it. That's why people don't believe him.
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Mike doesn't just say he's seen it, he says he has a copy, and yet 9 years on refuses to do anything with it. That's why people don't believe him.

Do you believe that DC Clarke told Ann Eaton on the morning of 7th August 1985, within an hour or so of him leaving the scene (WHF), that Sheila's body had been found on the bed?
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Do you believe that DC Clarke told Ann Eaton on the morning of 7th August 1985, within an hour or so of him leaving the scene (WHF), that Sheila's body had been found on the bed?

I believe Ann Eaton believed he did.
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