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Offline mike tesko

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No, I think it is for you to prove that the lab assistants did not handle the cartridges in the way that any normal person would.

And what in your opinion would be the the way any normal person would handle bullets when loading them up into the magazine of a gun? And, do you consider Sheila Caffell to have been normal in this respect, even though according to those from the opposite camp she did not know one end of a gun from the other?
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Have you seen the price and size of such a thing?

I could find room for it. ;D


Offline mike tesko

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And what in your opinion would be the the way any normal person would handle bullets when loading them up into the magazine of a gun? And, do you consider Sheila Caffell to have been normal in this respect, even though according to those from the opposite camp she did not know one end of a gun from the other?

I have observed many different people loading bullets up into the magazine of a .22 rifle, and many of them handle the brass bullet case with the fingers of their hand, and load the round into the magazine, tip first and then press the base of the cartridge down and into position so that it sits inside the ammunition magazine snugly. All of this without touching the lead bullet head part of the round, now why would it be different in Sheila's case?
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I have observed many different people loading bullets up into the magazine of a .22 rifle, and many of them handle the brass bullet case with the fingers of their hand, and load the round into the magazine, tip first and then press the base of the cartridge down and into position so that it sits inside the ammunition magazine snugly. All of this without touching the lead bullet head part of the round, now why would it be different in Sheila's case?

As I said, if that is the way a normal person would do it then you have to show that the lab assistants did it in some abnormal way.
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I have observed many different people loading bullets up into the magazine of a .22 rifle, and many of them handle the brass bullet case with the fingers of their hand, and load the round into the magazine, tip first and then press the base of the cartridge down and into position so that it sits inside the ammunition magazine snugly. All of this without touching the lead bullet head part of the round, now why would it be different in Sheila's case?

Am I right in thinking that... since nobody alive saw her do it, it's inconclusive and therefore unlikely to be of any help to the defence.  It's not as if JB could just say 'that's how she loaded the bullets' on any occasion which he saw her do so.

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Am I right in thinking that... since nobody alive saw her do it, it's inconclusive and therefore unlikely to be of any help to the defence.  It's not as if JB could just say 'that's how she loaded the bullets' on any occasion which he saw her do so.

Equally, as inconclusive to the prosecutions case, but they still introduced the results of the dodgy hand swabs to suggest that this in some way helped to prove that Sheila did not and could not have loaded jup any bullets into the magazine of the rifle...
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