telephone logs.

[Caroline R]

  Too ridiculous for words especially as it has been suggested he was wearing a wet suit.

 

[grahameb]

It was pretty cool that night,,and when you've just got up you feel cold,,and I too would have dressed for the " North Pole " ,,,but I couldn't pedal a bike with that lot on. I've never heard anything so ridiculous.
Some people will believe anything,,,especially when they're puppets having their strings pulled. Bless.

The BGB lot are the ones with puppet masters.

[grahameb]

Works both ways,,Bridget,,,particularly to those who are related. ( string-pullers )

And those who were drawn into the argument just because they hate someone else who hold opposite views.

[-Harters-]

Hi Susan, yes I did read that.  Would be interesting to know roughly how many houses he would have to have passed, not to mention the odd passing motorist.

Forgetting about the case and without suggesting this is what happened.

It is possible to get from WHF to the back gate of St Peter Church in Goldhanger, without passing another dwelling, that would place you 60 metres from No. 9 Head Streets front door.

[maggie]

And those who were drawn into the argument just because they hate someone else who hold opposite views.

Cant argue with that Grahame

[Neil]

Forgetting about the case and without suggesting this is what happened.

It is possible to get from WHF to the back gate of St Peter Church in Goldhanger, without passing another dwelling, that would place you 60 metres from No. 9 Head Streets front door.

Thanks for that.  Does that route avoid roads and therefore the possibility of being seen by other road users?

[-Harters-]

Thanks for that.  Does that route avoid roads and therefore the possibility of being seen by other road users?

Yes, via farm tracks and the seawall.

[Neil]

Yes, via farm tracks and the seawall.

Would that be a difficult bike ride, across fields?  How long would that journey take?  Sorry about all the questions!!

[maggie]

Would that be a difficult bike ride, across fields?  How long would that journey take?  Sorry about all the questions!!

Neil, I believe we're talking pitch black farm tracks and a very dangerous eroded path on the edge of the sea, also pitch black.

[Neil]

Neil, I believe we're talking pitch black farm tracks and a very dangerous eroded path on the edge of the sea, also pitch black.

Thanks Maggie.  Do you know if it was the prosecutions case that he took this route?

[maggie]

Thanks Maggie.  Do you know if it was the prosecutions case that he took this route?

Off the top of my head Neil, I know the police tried various routes and I cant remember the conclusiin. Grahame will know better than myself but I"m pretty sure the seawall was ruled out.  There is a report somewhere but cant remember where I read it.

[susan]

Hi Mags  it would be so dark travelling on farm tracks and seawall I wonder if Jeremy had one of those lamps that fastened around his head like potholers use and coal miners.  Trouble is the bright light could have given the game away so rule that out.

[grahameb]

Would that be a difficult bike ride, across fields?  How long would that journey take?  Sorry about all the questions!!

Don't bother even trying to work it out Neil. It's just another crackpot theory of the BGB. There is absolutely nothing to support that but RWB's silly diary notes.

[-Harters-]

Would that be a difficult bike ride, across fields?  How long would that journey take?  Sorry about all the questions!!

By bike, something between 30-45minutes I'd say.

Difficult?
I guess it depends who you ask, people who want to persuade you that Jeremy was innocent would no doubt tell you that it was an impossible journey, in pitch blackness with a deadly crumbling seawall between you and certain death.
Those who want to persuade you that Jeremy is guilty might tell you that it was an easy journey, in fact it's so easy that you may as well leave your car at home and stay off the main roads all the time, this is in fact a short cut.

The reality is probably somewhere between the two.
Yes it was night time and dark, but there was moonlight, whether enough to make the journey or not, who knows? I'd say it would add to the journey time but not make it impossible.
The majority of the journey is by farm tracks several metres wide, potentially just about 800metres is along the seawall which isn't and wasn't anywhere near as treacherous as is being suggested, Think of it as a mound with a track on top of it rather than a wall, plus there was and is a grassed track at the bottom of the mound for a good length of it (that the farm vehicles use(d)). Right now some cheeky bugger has put a caravan on one corner of the seawall which people are using as a base for going kyaking.

Also the police walked several routes (on advice from Robert Boutflour), they clearly considered the journey possible and in turn the prosecution clearly persuaded the jury that the journey was possible.

I'm not sure what else I can tell you about it.

[maggie]

Don't bother even trying to work it out Neil. It's just another crackpot theory of the BGB. There is absolutely nothing to support that but RWB's silly diary notes.

Tanks grahame, that must be where I read it.