Suicide Behaviour and Recognising

[Cambridgecutie]

Gary speed did punditry hours before his death.

Guy I used to socialise with years ago took his kidsvon a day trip hours before. By all accounts everything was well.  He strung up on account of a broken down relationship.

It's all locked in the individuals mind.

Whilst been in some dark places in my time I can safely say I've never ever contemplated suicide.

Yes Gary Speed sprang to mind when I read the article.  Good looking guy. 

[Steve_uk]

Schoolgirl tragedy: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/adriana-retyte-death-inquest-norfolk-37183057

[Steve_uk]

Mystery surrounds the tragic death of three sisters in Brighton last Tuesday: https://www.google.com/search?q=three+sisters+brighton+drowning&sca_esv=7210f249a5686666&biw=1272&bih=634&sxsrf=ANbL-n4mNm10F7K_4WeEKHVXlkqSP_g__A%3A1779301467543&ei=W_wNavblILuHhbIPrIm7iAs&ved=0ahUKEwi2_66_vsiUAxW7Q0EAHazEDrEQ4dUDCBI&uact=5&oq=three+sisters+brighton+drowning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiH3RocmVlIHNpc3RlcnMgYnJpZ2h0b24gZHJvd25pbmcyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAFIqV1QyghYvFpwAngAkAECmAGmAaABgjCqAQQ2Mi45uAEDyAEA-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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:99c125c5,vid:KO5vtqx3TZU,st:0

[Steve_uk]

Mystery surrounds the tragic death of three sisters in Brighton last Tuesday: https://www.google.com/search?q=three+sisters+brighton+drowning&sca_esv=7210f249a5686666&biw=1272&bih=634&sxsrf=ANbL-n4mNm10F7K_4WeEKHVXlkqSP_g__A%3A1779301467543&ei=W_wNavblILuHhbIPrIm7iAs&ved=0ahUKEwi2_66_vsiUAxW7Q0EAHazEDrEQ4dUDCBI&uact=5&oq=three+sisters+brighton+drowning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiH3RocmVlIHNpc3RlcnMgYnJpZ2h0b24gZHJvd25pbmcyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAFIqV1QyghYvFpwAngAkAECmAGmAaABgjCqAQQ2Mi45uAEDyAEA-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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:99c125c5,vid:KO5vtqx3TZU,st:0

It's a horrible thought but it has to be addressed, whether members care to confront the issue or not. Given the latest revelation that Jane, Christina and Rebecca's mother Janice, who was known to have suffered from mental health issues, had died by drowning in an Erdington lake sixteen years previously, one has to ask oneself the unsettling question whether the death had preyed on the daughters' minds all this time, finally causing them to take the last tragic step to end their own lives.

Members may recall the masterpiece novel The Moonstone, written by English novelist Wilkie Collins and his character of Rosanna Spearman, who walks into the deadly shifting quicksand of a North Yorkshire coast, and whether the London sisters misjudged the sea shelf and the ledge of stones affected by the strong spring tides, falling away suddenly, or just collectively lost the will to live as they waded into the water fully clothed, the balance of their minds disturbed, the threnody of the human condition, as the stresses and strains of daily life in the capital took their toll and finally overwhelmed them.

[lookout]

 I would sadly like to add that I lost a great-grandson not 2 years ago at the age of 18. He was a twin. A happy soul who enjoyed his guitar collection plus his last visit to the Creamfields concert before the tragedy. There was no indication whatsoever that he was " suffering ". He had lots of friends and was liked by all who knew him.
I do know he was finding it difficult in securing employment and didn't like rejection after applying for any placement, but we'll never know what went on in his mind.
To say it shattered me is an understatement and I struggled for answers. His twin is okay, though it'll take a while for her to realise that he won't share their 21st birthday next year. She is a good artist and painted me a picture which I treasure, so I'm happy to provide her with all the materials that she needs in her college studies.

[Steve_uk]

I would sadly like to add that I lost a great-grandson not 2 years ago at the age of 18. He was a twin. A happy soul who enjoyed his guitar collection plus his last visit to the Creamfields concert before the tragedy. There was no indication whatsoever that he was " suffering ". He had lots of friends and was liked by all who knew him.
I do know he was finding it difficult in securing employment and didn't like rejection after applying for any placement, but we'll never know what went on in his mind.
To say it shattered me is an understatement and I struggled for answers. His twin is okay, though it'll take a while for her to realise that he won't share their 21st birthday next year. She is a good artist and painted me a picture which I treasure, so I'm happy to provide her with all the materials that she needs in her college studies.

So sorry for your loss lookout. I'm reminded of Rupert Young. There's also speculation that Andrew Gosden may have taken his own life, as you say, no warning and devastating for those left behind.

[Steve_uk]

Another person one can consistently rely on to dig up the dirt, whether it's the Jeremy Bamber case, Cliff Richard, or the recent seaside tragedy. She claims to have inside information, so I suppose one must wait and see. https://youtu.be/d3B6g4Hh7zk