Author Topic: The silencer, hand swab, and scratch marks on the aga, Conspiracy...  (Read 63846 times)

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ComeOnEngland  we are agreeing that on the whole my posts are a total waste of time and I have now realised you are Hartley bit slow but got it in the end. :)

Who is Hartley and what did you/we get in the end? I can do inane.  ;D

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Hi Patti  I sent poor Hartley a reply to his post today and on reflection I think I replied to somebody elses post but he has just had a laugh to himself and probably thinks I am a Yorkshire Fruitcake :) ;) ;)

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Hi Patti  I sent poor Hartley a reply to his post today and on reflection I think I replied to somebody elses post but he has just had a laugh to himself and probably thinks I am a Yorkshire Fruitcake :) ;) ;)

Tis good to laugh at least once a day.... ??? ???

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When I was applying for a shotgun licence the police said that one of the reasons for the requirement for a locked cabinet was to prevent an intruder using my own gun against me. That said, I can see why if guns are used on a daily basis it would be irritating to keep having to retrieve them from a locked cabinet.
Now what would you want with a shotgun Bridget? :)

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ComeOnEngland Susan is not difficult to confuse :)

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Hi Patti  Bridget is awaiting in the wings ready to pounce be prepared. :) :)

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I suppose eating them probably wouldn't be too good for you - but most 6 year olds are past that  :)

Minus the gun I don't know what danger they might be, what happens if you put them in the Aga?
Yes I was thinking about that as well. Very tempting for kids to see what they would do if they threw them on the fire. Very dangerous.

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Yes, that is what I said a few months ago.  Separate from the rifle, the .22 ammunition is not dangerous.  Mind you, I seem to recall that Grahame responded talking about a prank at school, where a .22 round was placed in a vice and was then struck with a hammer on the detonator.  It exploded and a piece of metal hit someone in the neck causing a minor injury.  I suppose almost anything can be dangerous if handled in a stupid way.

I would not consider it irresponsible, even now, for someone to leave ammunition on a kitchen table even if 6 year old children were in the house. I do not believe Nevill would necessarily have cleared the ammunition away.  The attitude towards shotguns and rifles is a different matter.  Standards were far more lax in the mid 1980s, but now it is accepted good practice (and in fact a legal requirement) that all weapons should be kept safely stored when not in use.
The boy who put the thing in the vice got the worst injury. He got sent to the headmaster for six of the best. :(

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Yes I was thinking about that as well. Very tempting for kids to see what they would do if they threw them on the fire. Very dangerous.

Grahame, I think those little boys would have watched their Ps and Qs whilst they were with their Bamber grandparents. I also feel it likely that they would have picked up on Sheila's tension when they were there. I imagine that being with Colin's parents was a much happier and freer experience.

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Oops.   ;D
Have you read Colin's book?

bloggs and son

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Don't worry, I'm just easily amused.  ;)
Wow! Hartley. Its just like you to take all the blame. ::)

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ComeOnEngland  I think you are too sensible and cheerful to have a bad day ;) ;) ;)
Wha'...cough cough cough....excuse me while I choke on my buscuit. :-\

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Grahame you and ComeOnEngland should do a double act as Comedians you might make a few bob :) :) :)

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Hi Bridget. That is an assumption by yourself and others that she was unfamiliar with guns and that she may have been unlikely to have chosen one....It is not unlikely at all....like I have said she was brought up with guns, it more likely than unlikely that she would be able to use a gun.

I don't think I am twisting words Bridget, I am merely pointing out that there is another possibility, which can't be disregarded....

How do you know she had co-ordination difficulties at that time of the murders?   :) :)
She's only going by the words of one of the family who themselves hadn't seen Sheila for some time. That person who originally said that was only guessing herself. Don't forget that the doctor had just halved her medication. I have seen my friend's boy (who is a schizophrenic) when the doctor had just tried halving his medication. He went absolutely crazy and picked a fight with his own father. It took a long time to get him under control.
Really some people who don't think that Sheila was responsible seem to build her up to be some kind of sweet harmless angel, in spite of testimonies from both Colin and Freddy to the contrary. I read some of the cheesy stuff written on here about her by some and nearly gag. Nobody's that innocent and couple that with her illness then at times it is very likely that she behaved like a devil. That is not putting Sheila down. It is looking at human nature with pure common sense and human nature twisted by her acute schizophrenia.

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She's only going by the words of one of the family who themselves hadn't seen Sheila for some time. That person who originally said that was only guessing herself. Don't forget that the doctor had just halved her medication. I have seen my friend's boy (who is a schizophrenic) when the doctor had just tried halving his medication. He went absolutely crazy and picked a fight with his own father. It took a long time to get him under control.
Really some people who don't think that Sheila was responsible seem to build her up to be some kind of sweet harmless angel, in spite of testimonies from both Colin and Freddy to the contrary. I read some of the cheesy stuff written on here about her by some and nearly gag. Nobody's that innocent and couple that with her illness then at times it is very likely that she behaved like a devil. That is not putting Sheila down. It is looking at human nature with pure common sense and human nature twisted by her acute schizophrenia.


I agree with this greatly. Sheila, although I believe innocent of murder, was a troubled soul and certianly no angel.