Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF

[ajross]

Oh I am sorry, can I call you AJ...there are so many unusual names on here...

In regards to thinking he is guilty...how can you state this:

Although it is striking how it all seems to be down in part to the greed/worry of the family members and the personal vendetta and obsession of one police officer.


AJ I don't believe in all I read...I look at the evidence and forensic science to speak to me...


Can you tell me what evidence you have to support that fact you feel JB is guilty.....

I believe in fairness and try disregard JB'S arrogance, for that is not a sign of anyone being guilty of murder...

I've probably articulated myself badly, what I mean to say is that if you read Wilkes' book it would be easy to assume his guilt (up to the point I have read) however, when reading the book it is written almost like fiction where Stan Jones is like a Columbo character, desperately trying to prove he is right and colluding with the relatives. What is so striking and unknown to me before is JBs character, he comes across as a very cynical, nasty piece of work. I do not believe he is guilty, I can see why others might.

[Nuala]

Remember that at the end of Wilkes' book he concludes that it's too close to call.

[mertol22]

Hello Ajross pardon my post, in the early days of joining i thought jeremy as this, what we may be forgetting now that was circa 1980s quite some time ago, do you think 26 years or so on he has mellowed and in fact nothing like he was ,there is one cricial point he may have been like that prior to all this ,in prison you are all equal.

[ajross]

Remember that at the end of Wilkes' book he concludes that it's too close to call.

I am constantly aware of the fact that it may all change and that is why I keep trying to make that clear, but with a thread named as this is i couldn't give up the chance to fully dissect as I read even if nobody is really too interested. I am enjoying the book although I find it to be badly written and prepared like crime fiction which I consciously avoid under normal circumstances.

[Patti]

I've probably articulated myself badly, what I mean to say is that if you read Wilkes' book it would be easy to assume his guilt (up to the point I have read) however, when reading the book it is written almost like fiction where Stan Jones is like a Columbo character, desperately trying to prove he is right and colluding with the relatives. What is so striking and unknown to me before is JBs character, he comes across as a very cynical, nasty piece of work. I do not believe he is guilty, I can see why others might.

Brilliant post AJ

I can see how the reader gets involved in the book and, is allowed to form their own opinions....

It's amazing how the mind works in conjunction to all the different projections surrounding the case.....We are only human and, we all differ in our opinions...even if we read the same book, we all interpretate it differently....I often wonder why this is?

I think I need to read the book AJ...I will definitely get it after I have read Scott's book. Have you read this one? 

[mertol22]

I dont have wilke s book nor scott lomax only colins out of the maiden post as ive said before i wanted to know how these families came together the early years what may make a change is a new one .

[ajross]

Brilliant post AJ

I can see how the reader gets involved in the book and, is allowed to form their own opinions....

It's amazing how the mind works in conjunction to all the different projections surrounding the case.....We are only human and, we all differ in our opinions...even if we read the same book, we all interpretate it differently....I often wonder why this is?

I think I need to read the book AJ...I will definitely get it after I have read Scott's book. Have you read this one? 

I have it, I bought all of them when my sister reminded of the case. My intention was to write my own book or film script then the documentary appeared and I became aware of the forum. My interest in the writing then tailed off as there was too much to take in and I doubted getting JB to consent to any of it. Fortunately one of the books I was considering was a work of fict,ion with the events of that night as a sort of background story-center piece.  I am now starting to read the three books that I bought. Wilkes' book won't take very long at all (but for the fact I only have 30 minutes a day to read)

[Patti]

I dont have wilke s book nor scott lomax only colins out of the maiden post as ive said before i wanted to know how these families came together the early years what may make a change is a new one .

Mertol, reading Scott's book will like reading my posts lol 

Honestly I was amazed, it is a must buy....and he has a signed copy collectors copy on Amazon...but since I bought a signed copy the price has increased....Ha!   

[ajross]

Hello Ajross pardon my post, in the early days of joining i thought Jeremy as this, what we may be forgetting now that was circa 1980s quite some time ago, do you think 26 years or so on he has mellowed and in fact nothing like he was ,there is one crucial point he may have been like that prior to all this ,in prison you are all equal.

In my opinion? I think he would have changed.

In the opinion of a person who had just read up to chapter 16 of Blood Relations? I would suggest that it would be impossible for the character portrayed to be able to change or even be aware that change would be needed. I either believe that he was incredibly shallow, callous and rather brutal or...he had a massive cannabis addiction which resulted in cannabis induced psychosis, paranoia, violent mood swings, vacant spells flippancy.

[mertol22]

Mertol, reading Scott's book will like reading my posts lol 

Honestly I was amazed, it is a must buy....and he has a signed copy collectors copy on Amazon...but since I bought a signed copy the price has increased....Ha!   

yes miss marple i am aware of your steal you got lucky please find some concern for the minions missing out early...

[Patti]

I have it, I bought all of them when my sister reminded of the case. My intention was to write my own book or film script then the documentary appeared and I became aware of the forum. My interest in the writing then tailed off as there was too much to take in and I doubted getting JB to consent to any of it. Fortunately one of the books I was considering was a work of fict,ion with the events of that night as a sort of background story-center piece.  I am now starting to read the three books that I bought. Wilkes' book won't take very long at all (but for the fact I only have 30 minutes a day to read)

AJ, do you need JB's consent to write a book?

There is a lot of criticism od Scott's book. But, I haven't read it all yet, but have picked up on the mistakes when I first opened it.  To be a good crime writer, you need to do good research......Scott in my eyes has done this, but does get get certain facts wrong....The firs being Jeremy's  call to Witham and other minor things....but overall it is a must read. to anyone who follows the case.

Write you book AJ......but be right with facts, that is what makes a best seller.....

[mertol22]

In my opinion? I think he would have changed.

In the opinion of a person who had just read up to chapter 16 of Blood Relations? I would suggest that it would be impossible for the character portrayed to be able to change or even be aware that change would be needed. I either believe that he was incredibly shallow, callous and rather brutal or...he had a massive cannabis addiction which resulted in cannabis induced psychosis, paranoia, violent mood swings, vacant spells flippancy.

It was in the papers after the last failed ccrc application JB said they have given me a death sentence for my days to stay here why dont they bring back the death penalty, not the words to me of a murderer

[ajross]

AJ, do you need JB's consent to write a book?

There is a lot of criticism od Scott's book. But, I haven't read it all yet, but have picked up on the mistakes when I first opened it.  To be a good crime writer, you need to do good research......Scott in my eyes has done this, but does get get certain facts wrong....The firs being Jeremy's  call to Witham and other minor things....but overall it is a must read. to anyone who follows the case.

Write you book AJ......but be right with facts, that is what makes a best seller.....

It was more for the film I was considering the consent, i would imagine he holds the rights to that and very much hopes to make that money when he gets out. With only half an hour to read due to my excessively busy family life i doubt I will ever get the time to write anything! ,

[Nuala]

I've probably articulated myself badly, what I mean to say is that if you read Wilkes' book it would be easy to assume his guilt (up to the point I have read) however, when reading the book it is written almost like fiction where Stan Jones is like a Columbo character, desperately trying to prove he is right and colluding with the relatives. What is so striking and unknown to me before is JBs character, he comes across as a very cynical, nasty piece of work. I do not believe he is guilty, I can see why others might.

Good for you, AJ!

[Patti]

We all hear stories about what JB was like after the deaths of his family. No one, not anyone can put themselves in his shoes.

He was it total shock...It must have been very difficult for him to cry......How many times have you heard this,  it will hit her/him when at the funeral?

Well it did hit him.....I have a real close up of Jeremy and you can see the tears coming out of his eyes and all his eye lashes are wet and joined up....

Yet the press says it was an act! Why? We read the press, so we believe what we read.....Not I