police officers stronger evidence than the photographs UNBELEIVABLE

[newsman]

police officers on the scene all made statements saying that they didn't touch or move anything and this is stronger evidence than the photographs.

Looks like the corrupt system just does not want him out. If anyone can explain to me how on earth a statement from a police officer who might not want to suggest they haven't followed procedures is better evidence than a photo that proves it without doubt I am all ears.
 
With this announcement I feel the 90 day appeal process is also unlikely to be successful and then the whole process will have to start all over again so that will be another 3 years or so.

I am at a total loss with this verdict I feel the evidence being published on here including the photos really does help show the miscarriage that is containing so keep up the good work people.

[doctorpsylus]

I must admit this weekend was goin 2 b great........JB gets an appeal hearing & city win the derby on saturday..........This is a total downer,but how on earth ios JB feelin???
I know admin will pass on good wishes.I actually met JB in jail in 1985(norwich) (dont remember exact dates)He liked new romantic bands & The whole club scene it spawned.He thort my bands name was quite funny (dr psyus & the fungus from rye) & i remember he had a prawn sandwich from harrods(remand could get food parcels-we all did,he wasnt privelleged etc).Funny i assumed ghe was in for drugs offences(cos we all were at that time in the 80s)Not castin any asspersions on JB at all but i assumed hed been done wioth a large bag of coke & was waitin on forensics.
He never struck me as a man waitin on a 100% life sentence & i have stuck with the case since (even though the mediA HAVE GONE OUT OF THERE WAY TO NOT PUBLICISE THE CASE! There are more tv shows about gary glitters exploits that JB -how wrong is that?!

Several years ago there was a case of a guy shaun jenkins-at the time i questioned a key piece of evidence (cars seat belt) that was never looked into,i contacted the police & the press-as a normal citizen would,yetr this was overlooked & he was eventually released on appeal....yet the seatbelt would answer if he was where he said he was at the time his daughter was killed.
How on earth is tghis evidence bein missed? why isnt it bein taken serious? why cant this case get the press that the xmas 2010 murder of jo yates got? or steve wright? Something isnt right here.This case needs publicising.I have a page on my website  simply called -find maddy-for maddeliene mcann.I will gladly donate a page towards the JB appeal & case in general-i run a football site,we get together on matchdays & talk about frooty & life in general-we would gladly give a page over to help the appeal,its not much,but if anyone who has a site can do this,well get noticed.Again ,somethin stinks here & its time it was brought to the FULL attention of the public,i dont know if you have a facebook page,if not get one,its the fastest social media tool in the world & better than sky news for REAL news as its run by normal humans .All the best & talk 2 ya again soon,cheers to admin for the work,the site & forum.

[Hartley]

police officers on the scene all made statements saying that they didn't touch or move anything and this is stronger evidence than the photographs.

Looks like the corrupt system just does not want him out. If anyone can explain to me how on earth a statement from a police officer who might not want to suggest they haven't followed procedures is better evidence than a photo that proves it without doubt I am all ears.

I guess they are saying that a photograph cannot be placed at an exact time, where as the sworn statement of a police officer carries more weight.

Besides which photographs are you referring to? Other than the photographs which appear to show 'wet blood' on Sheila (which I can't explain) all the others are subjective.

[Sparkfilms]

Sad and disappointed by this.

Do they really doubt Mr Sutherst or is there more to this?

I have emailed Mike ( sorry to add to your workload ) to see if he has contact details for Mr Sutherst - I just don't get this, and feel like I need further explanation.

As I am keying this in the CCRC have returned my phone call - quite unexpected really, and were really quite helpful.

They mentioned their own photographic 'expert'.

I think we would all like to see the 89 page document.

Anyway, peaceful weekend to everyone, especially Jeremy and Mike.

[Hartley]

I must admit this weekend was goin 2 b great........JB gets an appeal hearing & city win the derby on saturday..............

What a bizarre statement!

If JB was granted leave to appeal (or is in the future) I'd hope it had something to do with evidence submitted and proven facts.

[newsman]

I guess they are saying that a photograph cannot be placed at an exact time, where as the sworn statement of a police officer carries more weight.

Besides which photographs are you referring to? Other than the photographs which appear to show 'wet blood' on Sheila (which I can't explain) all the others are subjective.

One of the images was the fresh blood but the others were the rifle on the body with the other photograph over laid on top showing that the arms had been moved. Would be interesting to see the CCRC report. 

[Hartley]

I guess they are saying that a photograph cannot be placed at an exact time, where as the sworn statement of a police officer carries more weight.

Besides which photographs are you referring to? Other than the photographs which appear to show 'wet blood' on Sheila (which I can't explain) all the others are subjective.

One of the images was the fresh blood but the others were the rifle on the body with the other photograph over laid on top showing that the arms had been moved. Would be interesting to see the CCRC report.

I agree.

But if for example it is accepted that the rifle and the arms had been moved, what are the ramifications?

One may be able to argue that if the body had been moved, yet there are police officer statements to say otherwise, then other statements made by those same officers could be disputed.

The fact that the body may or may not have been moved, is not, by itself evidence of JB's innocence.

[Pete0001]

One of the images was the fresh blood...

I think for clarification it should be said.. APPEARS TO BE FRESH BLOOD.

I'm a photographer and have seen many images that appear to be something other than what they are and flash/lighting can have a number of effects on the taken photograph.

[Pete0001]

The fact that the body may or may not have been moved, is not, by itself evidence of JB's innocence.

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All it shows is that the body had been moved which could have happened for a mulitude of legitate reasons and do remember when the body was moved the Police had no reason to frame JB. They thought it was a murder and suicide. Putting JB in the frame wasn't considered until sometime after the pictures. Which leads one to think that the moving of the bodies on that morning was just part of the investigation that morning. Maybe badly done but certainly not done with framing someone in mind.

[Hartley]

I think for clarification it should be said.. APPEARS TO BE FRESH BLOOD.

I'm a photographer and have seen many images that appear to be something other than what they are and flash/lighting can have a number of effects on the taken photograph.

Yes you are absolutely correct!!!! My mistake.

[Jackiepreece]

I have only just started using this site but your letter really made me think because I dont believe Jeremy is guilty and I think it would be brilliant if you devoted a page to him. The lies and the behaviour of the police is disgusting and I would love the chance to find out who the jury members were on Jeremys trial because as a 10-2 majority a lot of jurors would have been borderline.  I bet with everything that has come out quite a few of them are not happy imagine having someone spending thier whole life in prison because of a wrong decision that has been made what a terrible thing to have  to live with. There is not a person alive that has the proof that Jeremy has committed those murders and if someone has the proof please tell me and I will admit to being wrong.  I have just started writing to Jeremy perhaps you could send him a note and if you have any ideas how I can help clear his name let me know
jackie

[mike tesko]

I think for clarification it should be said.. APPEARS TO BE FRESH BLOOD.

I'm a photographer and have seen many images that appear to be something other than what they are and flash/lighting can have a number of effects on the taken photograph.

Yes you are absolutely correct!!!! My mistake.

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And so, when the later photographs were taken, why didn't this flash photography make that dark dried blood appear as though it was fresh looking?

[Reader]

Several years ago there was a case of a guy shaun jenkins - at the time I questioned a key piece of evidence (car's seat belt) . . .

If you are referring to Siôn Jenkins, who was cleared five years ago, what was the significance of the car's seat belt?

[andrea]

why does this thread have a thumbs down?

[mike tesko]

The fact that the body may or may not have been moved, is not, by itself evidence of JB's innocence.

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All it shows is that the body had been moved which could have happened for a mulitude of legitate reasons and do remember when the body was moved the Police had no reason to frame JB. They thought it was a murder and suicide. Putting JB in the frame wasn't considered until sometime after the pictures. Which leads one to think that the moving of the bodies on that morning was just part of the investigation that morning. Maybe badly done but certainly not done with framing someone in mind.

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Nobody is disputing that, but later once the bodies have been disposed of by cremation and burial, all Essex police had to go on, once the nature of the case altered, were these crime scene photographs, which showed Sheila's body in positions that the police moved her body into, and at that stage the police presented a case as though Sheila's body was photographed, where it was found, which was misleading and not true. It was from this point onwards, that the police started to frame Jeremy for these murders, not beforehand...