Police arrival at WHF what next ?

[Bridget]

Barking like a dog? Im confused, sheila was barking like a dog? Who the hell said such a stupid thing?

Mike.

I suppose it would be fair to say it wasn't the response they were expecting

[bloggs and son]

And yet it is quite clearly stated that there was no response. It's only confusing if you want there to have been a conversation.

I believe in the actual logs written at the time (I might be wrong here though? ) said "in conversation with" and the statements that were written up after the event and after the cops met for debriefing they added the words "no response". But I believe if I can find the logs, that from memory (my bad memory I admit) that that was the explanation? But I stand to be corrected of course.

[sagar]

So after barking did sheila take a nice relaxing shower then kill herself?

[NewChilledOutHartley]

Who said Sheila barked like a dog? Well let's have a look:

 

Sheila mimicked the sound of a dog barking at times which confused the firearms team because they could not pinpoint her location inside the farmhouse at specific times, and it was not until WPC Jeapes spotted the rifle at the bedroom window that police knew which part of the house she was at or in at that precise moment in time. There were other times, when it was obvious to the firearms team that it was Sheila, for example, when she was screaming and shouting obscenities, ranting and raving...

These activities kept the firearms at bay and prevented them from raiding the farmhouse for two and a half hours...

People can believe what they want to, but the truth is that something prevented the firearms team from going into the farmhouse to try and save the lives of five individuals (two of them little children) and  that reason was Sheila who put the fear of god into them...

[Bridget]

I believe in the actual logs written at the time (I might be wrong here though? ) said "in conversation with" and the statements that were written up after the event and after the cops met for debriefing they added the words "no response". But I believe if I can find the logs, that from memory (my bad memory I admit) that that was the explanation? But I stand to be corrected of course.

Maybe, they did, but maybe they did that because it was a more accurate description of what had happened (or not happened) than what had been written.

[vidvic]

No no no.

She shot herself in the kitchen & collapses.

When the raid team enter she is already shot but manages to come round, avoid the police and get to the front bedroom where she collapses on the bed.

She is photographed on the bed with one wound and declared dead.

She then comes round a second time and shots herself again.

Can we see the photo mike?

[Bridget]

So after barking did sheila take a nice relaxing shower then kill herself?

Yes, and put her clothes in to soak too, she was very busy.

[vidvic]

Yes, and put her clothes in to soak too, she was very busy.

And made herself something to eat....

[NewChilledOutHartley]

And wiped the gun clean.

[Bridget]

And made herself something to eat....

And that..

[vidvic]

She must have changed her top too...  (no gun residue)

[lookout]

Good morning all.
"No response " could simply mean that Sheila was taking no notice of requests asked of her. There'd have been so much noise going on at the time,that there's every possibilty on Sheila hearing the loud hailer,that it was that point that she did,and could have fired the fatal shot to herself without anyone hearing it going off. The timing would have been right in relation to her actual time of death.
There was no rigor mortis on Sheila's body that I've read about when the police entered. If there had have been,she'd have been dead for at least 2 hours prior. That wasn't the case.

[susan]

sagar  how would anybody know whether it was Crispy the dog barking  I suspect it would have been with all the mayhem.

[sagar]

And read herself a bedtme story ( bible).

[mertol22]

The issue of Sheila using the shower is another matter, upon arrival at WHF several  mistakes were made , 1 this had nothing to do with Jeremy , i mean he was a civilian as far as im concerned, who will be from here on taking over this situation the police or a civilian ?, he was placed in danger being there they had no proof sheila was inside prior to arrival, they had plenty of time to consider courses  of action and decided to do nothing a total poor operation.