Grounds for not referring Jeremy Bamber’s case back to the appeal court.

[Hartley]

An image in the form of a photograph is just a record of what has been recorded and that can be seen in the photograph.. it doesn't prove anything or disprove anything.
Photographs only become good evidence when they have things to back up the image.

Just like the alleged moon landings then? 

[mb1]

An image in the form of a photograph is just a record of what has been recorded and that can be seen in the photograph.. it doesn't prove anything or disprove anything.
Photographs only become good evidence when they have things to back up the image.

Just like the alleged moon landings then? 

+1

 

[Pete0001]

An image in the form of a photograph is just a record of what has been recorded and that can be seen in the photograph.. it doesn't prove anything or disprove anything.
Photographs only become good evidence when they have things to back up the image.

Just like the alleged moon landings then? 

Haha... I was going to say that as an example.. along with yeti photo but thought I might be opening a whole new can of worms!

[Hartley]

An image in the form of a photograph is just a record of what has been recorded and that can be seen in the photograph.. it doesn't prove anything or disprove anything.
Photographs only become good evidence when they have things to back up the image.

Just like the alleged moon landings then? 

Haha... I was going to say that as an example.. along with yeti photo but thought I might be opening a whole new can of worms!

Yeah the Yeti photo would have been a rubbish example. 

[Newbury1]

An image in the form of a photograph is just a record of what has been recorded and that can be seen in the photograph.. it doesn't prove anything or disprove anything.
Photographs only become good evidence when they have things to back up the image.

Just like the alleged moon landings then? 

Haha... I was going to say that as an example.. along with yeti photo but thought I might be opening a whole new can of worms!

Yeah the Yeti photo would have been a rubbish example. 

I've got a copy of a photo of the Lochness monster, any takers? 

[Kaldin]

I would h ave thought that the moving of Sheila from the kitchen to the bedroom between  0730 and 0800, while everybody was outside, should have been evidence enough. Or is this incorrect.

There is no evidence of that ...

[haughton]

It was reported that when the police entered the house at 0730 they found two bodies in the kitchen. One was a woman with a rifle beside her, half an hour later they went in again and found the woman had gone along with the rifle. If this was fiction;what can we believe?

[Kaldin]

It was reported that when the police entered the house at 0730 they found two bodies in the kitchen. One was a woman with a rifle beside her, half an hour later they went in again and found the woman had gone along with the rifle. If this was fiction;what can we believe?

I've seen no report which says that a woman was found in the kitchen with a rifle beside her. Could you please post the police report which says that?

[haughton]

I don't have that report, but I have read it often. "when the police found the woman and rifle had gone they locked themselves in and called for help" I have read this several times on JB's site. Someone has remarked that Shiela must have been alive at that time and the police could have saved her!.
I,m becomeing confused now

[mb1]

It was reported that when the police entered the house at 0730 they found two bodies in the kitchen. One was a woman with a rifle beside her, half an hour later they went in again and found the woman had gone along with the rifle. If this was fiction;what can we believe?

I've seen no report which says that a woman was found in the kitchen with a rifle beside her. Could you please post the police report which says that?

The problem with the whole 'Sheila half-dead in the kitchen' story - not an official report - is that it defies any form of logic.

If she had the energy to run out of the kitchen, why didn't she run when she heard the police entering?

Why not shoot herself (again) immediately?

[Hartley]

It was reported that when the police entered the house at 0730 they found two bodies in the kitchen. One was a woman with a rifle beside her, half an hour later they went in again and found the woman had gone along with the rifle. If this was fiction;what can we believe?

I've seen no report which says that a woman was found in the kitchen with a rifle beside her. Could you please post the police report which says that?

The problem with the whole 'Sheila half-dead in the kitchen' story - not an official report - is that it defies any form of logic.

If she had the energy to run out of the kitchen, why didn't she run when she heard the police entering?

Why not shoot herself (again) immediately?

Also if you get shot in the neck then, it's going to bleed a bit right, well a lot I would say? Why isn't there any evidence of a trail of Sheila's blood leading from the kitchen to the main bedroom.

[haughton]

Perhaps she was "playing dead" in the kitchen. Perhaps she didn't bleed much after the first shot. Why state that there was two in the kitchen when there was not

[bb2010]

Jeremy needs Sheila to be alive once he is with the police. So interpreting the logs to support that becomes key. And then promoting that story becomes key. Even if the story seems completely unlikely, reliance is still placed on the logs that have been interpreted to show that Sheila was alive (be it in the upstairs window or in the kitchen).

Of course, this log http://youknowwhokilledyoudontyou.blogspot.com/2011/02/wireless-message-log.html

Doesn't say kitchen.

[mb1]

Perhaps she was "playing dead" in the kitchen. Perhaps she didn't bleed much after the first shot. Why state that there was two in the kitchen when there was not

Why play dead?

Why not run or kill yourself immediately you hear the police breaking in.

I asked elsewhere, why choose the kitchen to enter the building?
Good old ma-in-law suggestion:
If the GPO line was open to the kitchen (as reported) they knew this was the one room in the house where there were no sounds of life/occupancy.   

[haughton]

All the family were shot in a way to enure a kill. Sheila was not; her wounds may not have been fatal.
A killer would have made sure, not by shooting her in the throut. There is enough doubts in this case for Jeremy to have had the benefit