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Offline Patti

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2012, 10:12:PM »
Quote from: Bridget on May 19, 2012, 09:52:PM
What are they supposed to do, re-review their decision every time JB says he doesn't like it, which will be any decision which is not to refer?

They will have been told the basis of the JR application in the letter from Simon McKay, clearly they think they will be successful in defending whatever points he has raised.

If they are confident that they have acted within the law, then that is fine. Simon must think otherwise...Hopefully we will find out in due course.

What I was saying to mat is that no outcome is known, yet Mat is saying otherwise....My question was...How can this be? :)
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2012, 11:07:PM »
Quote from: Patti on May 19, 2012, 10:12:PM
If they are confident that they have acted within the law, then that is fine. Simon must think otherwise...Hopefully we will find out in due course.

What I was saying to mat is that no outcome is known, yet Mat is saying otherwise....My question was...How can this be? :)
Mat is like the countless others who have come and gone claim to know information few do also, i for one did not fall out a box of cornflakes.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2012, 12:37:AM »
Quote from: Patti on May 19, 2012, 10:12:PM
If they are confident that they have acted within the law, then that is fine. Simon must think otherwise...Hopefully we will find out in due course.

What I was saying to mat is that no outcome is known, yet Mat is saying otherwise....My question was...How can this be? :)

Think you may have mis-understood just a little. The CCRC are sure that they abided by the law when they didn't refer the case to the COA.
Which is why they believe that the JR will fall in their favour, they don't beleive that have done anything wrong so do not expect to be told they have.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2012, 12:38:AM »
Quote from: Patti on May 19, 2012, 10:12:PM
If they are confident that they have acted within the law, then that is fine. Simon must think otherwise...Hopefully we will find out in due course.

What I was saying to mat is that no outcome is known, yet Mat is saying otherwise....My question was...How can this be? :)

The outcome of the CCRC decision is known - no referral. The JR is JB's application.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2012, 12:44:AM »
Hi Mat/Bridget....to be honest with you I am not sure of the legalities....Alls I (think) i know is that the high court will decide whether or not is goes any further....Help me out here for I am not familiar with it all. :)
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2012, 01:01:AM »
Quote from: Patti on May 20, 2012, 12:44:AM
Hi Mat/Bridget....to be honest with you I am not sure of the legalities....Alls I (think) i know is that the high court will decide whether or not is goes any further....Help me out here for I am not familiar with it all. :)

I don't know how to explain it any better! Haha.
I guess if I tell you I have 10 marbles, but you count then and you disagree and say I have 11. The defence is me, the CCRC is you. So the CCRC say there are 11 and the defence say there are 10.

So no one agrees.

They send it to the judges to see if the CCRC counted correctly.
The CCRC expect the decision to fall in their favour, because they believe they've counted/acted correctly.

Please tell me that makes sense to you?  :)
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2012, 01:05:AM »
Quote from: mat on May 20, 2012, 01:01:AM
I don't know how to explain it any better! Haha.
I guess if I tell you I have 10 marbles, but you count then and you disagree and say I have 11. The defence is me, the CCRC is you. So the CCRC say there are 11 and the defence say there are 10.

So no one agrees.

They send it to the judges to see if the CCRC counted correctly.
The CCRC expect the decision to fall in their favour, because they believe they've counted/acted correctly.

Please tell me that makes sense to you?  :)

But what if the judges say there is one very large marble that need more attention....Like a massive ball barian?  Then what?  :) :) :) :)
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2012, 01:06:AM »
Then they disagree with the CCRC's decision. They get the CCRC to look at it again.  :)


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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2012, 01:11:AM »
Quote from: mat on May 20, 2012, 01:06:AM
Then they disagree with the CCRC's decision. They get the CCRC to look at it again.  :)

What if they say they stand by their decision?  :)
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2012, 08:27:AM »
It's no more than a game of cat and mouse with the " remainder " of someone's life here.They're not always right.
The CCRC,that is. Independent,? Impartial?. Another biased organisation.!
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2012, 08:28:AM »
Quote from: Patti on May 20, 2012, 01:11:AM
What if they say they stand by their decision?  :)

If they paid the required further attention to the large one in coming to their decision to stand by their original decision it is very unlikely that a further JR application would be accepted.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2012, 08:42:AM »
I don't think it will be long till the ccrc decision in the Simon Hall case it will be interesting to see how that ends up
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2012, 08:50:AM »
They're expecting an update from the CCRC sometime in June I think.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2012, 09:19:AM »
Bridget they might even know the result already
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2012, 09:35:AM »
Quote from: JackiePreece on May 20, 2012, 09:19:AM
Bridget they might even know the result already

I suppose, but it was the CCRC that said June, why would you think otherwise?
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