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Offline grahameb

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I have included a diagram where I have marked the chimney I am particularly interested in, which I believe is Jeremy's old bedroom, a bedroom which I think Sheila was using the night she killed the others, before she died...

The chimney you are interested is between the room marked "Bed" and the room marked "Toilet" on Jeremy's diagram. This can be seen clearly on the photos of that side of the house posted in this thread. How does it help your argument?
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No, and even if you did the chimney would then be on the wrong side of the bed.
Two questions remain (1) Why was this picture taken. (2)If it was taken yesrs after the murders then what was all that police stuff doing on the bed?

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Two questions remain (1) Why was this picture taken. (2)If it was taken yesrs after the murders then what was all that police stuff doing on the bed?

Maybe you should ask Mike, presumably he knows the context. Tyler said something about further sampling in around 1990 I think.
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The chimney you are interested is between the room marked "Bed" and the room marked "Toilet" on Jeremy's diagram. This can be seen clearly on the photos of that side of the house posted in this thread. How does it help your argument?

As I say, I have identified the chimney which I believe was /is linked to the bedroom that I think Sheila was using before she went off her head. The bedroom in question was Jeremy's old bedroom, it has a fireplace and lo and behold we are led to believe by the police that the door to this bedroom was locked when they went / got into the premises?

How was it locked, and where did the police get the key from to open it up, and what did the police find once they got into that bedroom?
« Last Edit: May 06, 2012, 08:54:PM by mike tesko »
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At least now we have some clue what happened to the two blue books that 'packagebuilder' asked about! They were in the room where the gun was resting on the window and I would suggest that they are now on these shelves!
« Last Edit: May 06, 2012, 08:58:PM by ajross »

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As I say, I have identified the chimney which I believe was /is linked to the bedroom that I think Sheila was using before she went off her head. The bedroom in question was Jeremy's old bedroom, it has a fireplace and lo and behold we are led to believe by the police that the door to this bedroom was locked when they went / got into the premises?

How was it locked, and where did the police get the key from to open it up, and what did the police find once they got into that bedroom?
Mike I don't remember reading where the door to the bedroom was locked? Could you point me to the documentation that says it was?

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As I say, I have identified the chimney which I believe was /is linked to the bedroom that I think Sheila was using before she went off her head. The bedroom in question was Jeremy's old bedroom, it has a fireplace and lo and behold we are led to believe by the police that the door to this bedroom was locked when they went / got into the premises?

How was it locked, and where did the police get the key from to open it up, and what did the police find once they got into that bedroom?

What does that have to do with the room in the picture at the start of this thread, which is obviously not the one you are now talking about?
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Mike I don't remember reading where the door to the bedroom was locked? Could you point me to the documentation that says it was?

I believe it was mentioned in one of the raid team members edited version of his/a  statement...
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Given the lack of carpet and the presence of police clutter, you could probably date it if you know the dates the carpets were burned and the keys were handed over. I don't know them off the top of my head. It also appears that someone was in the process of moving in (the shirt hanging up and the new books).

And what appears to be a suit bag or dry cleaners bag amongst that pile of clothing

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What does that have to do with the room in the picture at the start of this thread, which is obviously not the one you are now talking about?

I believe it is the same room that I am now talking about...
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Mike I don't remember reading where the door to the bedroom was locked? Could you point me to the documentation that says it was?

I'll go and look for you G....I know it said one was locked, but not 100% if both were.......brb...:)

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Here is one G : I will look for the other...I'm sure I read there was a plaque saying Jeremy's room...Page 2 last para...:)
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1623.0;attach=13256;image

Page 3 last para onto top of page 4. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1620.0;attach=7652;image
« Last Edit: May 06, 2012, 09:19:PM by Patti »

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I believe it is the same room that I am now talking about...

I believe you are mistaken. It cannot possibly be, even if the photo is reversed (which it isn't).
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Sorry Mike, I have to agree with Bridget.....Also I think Tyler hit the nail on the head too. It's the main bedroom...Look slightly different, because the year is not 1985/86...:)