What Essex police and the Prosecution did not want Bamber to find out about?

[Bridget]

It is bad form to edit a post after someone has responded to it. The digital clock is different because the photo was taken several years later, and it belongs to Ann and Peter and not Neville and June.

[Nuala]

It is quite plainly the main bedroom, as the wall paper has the same pattern, which is positioned in the same way as the wallpaper in the main bedroom. The bed appears to be 54 inches wide (standard double width), estimated by comparing what can be seen of it with the length of the telephone (which would be about eight inches).

The voice of reason returns! Very astute, Reader

[mike tesko]

It is quite plainly the main bedroom, as the wall paper has the same pattern, which is positioned in the same way as the wallpaper in the main bedroom. The bed appears to be 54 inches wide (standard double width), estimated by comparing what can be seen of it with the length of the telephone (which would be about eight inches).

It will depend on the date the photographs were taken, it is not uncommon for someone to decorate more than one bedroom with the same wall paper, and what was /is the digital telephone doing on the bed if it was found under a pile of magazines downstairs in the kitchen?

[mike tesko]

It is bad form to edit a post after someone has responded to it. The digital clock is different because the photo was taken several years later, and it belongs to Ann and Peter and not Neville and June.

So what were the relatives doing with official Essex police documentation and all manner of equipment on the bed, so long after the alleged events?

[Bridget]

It will depend on the date the photographs were taken, it is not uncommon for someone to decorate more than one bedroom with the same wall paper, and what was /is the digital telephone doing on the bed if it was found under a pile of magazines downstairs in the kitchen?

How common is it for them to get the pattern of the wallpaper in exactly the same place?

So what were the relatives doing with official Essex police documentation and all manner of equipment on the bed, so long after the alleged events?

Tyler has suggested that they were taking more samples for some reason - I have no idea.

[mike tesko]

It is bad form to edit a post after someone has responded to it. The digital clock is different because the photo was taken several years later, and it belongs to Ann and Peter and not Neville and June.

Well, first of all, I didn't edit it as you put it after you responded to it, I realized the error and was in the process of editing it and tried to post it, only to be informed that there was a response to the thread I was posting in, so I removed the post or edited it before I checked to see what the additional post was about...

You can choose to believe what you like, I don't particular care one way or the other...

[mike tesko]

How common is it for them to get the pattern of the wallpaper in exactly the same place?

Tyler has suggested that they were taking more samples for some reason - I have no idea.

I wouldn't say the wallpaper in both pictures is in exactly the same place, although the pattern is the same...

[Nuala]

How common is it for them to get the pattern of the wallpaper in exactly the same place?

Tyler has suggested that they were taking more samples for some reason - I have no idea.

Might a skilled decorator do so? Such people follow a systematic procedure which includes cutting off the top edge of each roll so that the best of the pattern appears in the same, the most visible or most looked at positions, which in bedroom would be around the bed, I suppose, working away from the light so that seams are less visible, starting to hang the paper from a section of the room which allows the best matching of the pattern and so on.

[maggie]

I wouldn't say the wallpaper in both pictures is in exactly the same place, although the pattern is the same...

Yes, its a repetitive pattern, I don't think that proves it is the same room. It would probably be a professional decorator as I doubt anyone at the farm had anytime or interest in interior design.

[Bridget]

I wouldn't say the wallpaper in both pictures is in exactly the same place, although the pattern is the same...

It is in exactly the same place.

Might a skilled decorator do so? Such people follow a systematic procedure which includes cutting off the top edge of each roll so that the best of the pattern appears in the same, the most visible or most looked at positions, which in bedroom would be around the bed, I suppose, working away from the light so that seams are less visible, starting to hang the paper from a section of the room which allows the best matching of the pattern and so on.

It's one thing to line things up so that they are aesthetically pleasing, it's another to line them up so that they are in the exact same position in relation to things like door frames, handles, corners etc. No decorator I know would be that clever, or anal.

[maggie]

It's one thing to line things up so that they are aesthetically pleasing, it's another to line them up so that they are in the exact same position in relation to things like door frames, handles, corners etc. No decorator I know would be that clever, or anal.

Don't really think its a matter of being anal, just think there is a way to use that wallpaper to it's best effect with the bunches falling maybe at the skirting board on each strip. A decorator who papered one room following the pattern in a certain way would surely continue this in the next room.

[Bridget]

So humour me Maggie, have a look at the floor plans and tell me which room in that house could have been made to look absolutely identical to the main bedroom.

[mike tesko]

So, where was the fireplace linked to the chimney shown in the middle of the roof at whf (identified by a red cross)?

[Buddy]

I think Hartley mentioned yonks ago that the wallpaper remains as it was.
TBH I do not think that this thread has any relevance. This photo was clearly taken some time after the murders. With all the police documents, and notepads on the bed plus the photo's it was probably something to do with the re investigation.
The phone on the bed does not appear to be a digital one, and certainly not wireless free.

[Nuala]

It is in exactly the same place.

It's one thing to line things up so that they are aesthetically pleasing, it's another to line them up so that they are in the exact same position in relation to things like door frames, handles, corners etc. No decorator I know would be that clever, or anal.

It isn't a question of anality, Bridget, it's a question of perfectionism and all of the good decorators I've used were perfectionists. Why else would we employ them? Aesthetic appeal is achieved in decorating by following set techniques and his does create a uniform look. If the same wallpaper was used in each room, if the rooms are of similar shape, with similar features, albeit of a different size, then a professional decorator using standard techniques would create a similar look in both rooms, wouldn't he or she?