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mertol22

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2012, 12:32:AM »
There is no way those countries are going to let her in,she might do it again, she is on her own from here on in .

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 10:30:AM »
I wouldn't agree to her being sent anywhere.  I think that she should be sterilised at the earliest opportunity, and part of her licence condition be that she cannot live in a household with any child.

I also think that the press should not be allowed to print photographs of her, or the area in which she lives. 

I would then let her get on with her life, and if she breaks any of her conditions, she should pay the consequences.

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2012, 10:06:PM »
This will be an unpopular comment, but although I dislike the woman I also feel sorry for her.

Why did she do this to her child, for goodness sake? Because she was abused as a child, she must have been.

That doesn't mean I want my taxes wasted to send her to Canada. But it does mean I feel a little compassion for the woman. She has done her time, she now needs therapy and to be left to try to rebuild whatever fragments of her miserable life remain.

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2012, 02:39:PM »
POOR GRANDPARENTS


June and Gordon Matthews quit the comfortable bungalow where they lived for more than 10 years after discovering she was being freed from jail.

Money-mad Matthews, 36, staged her nine-year-old daughter Shannon’s abduction in a bid to pocket a £50,000 reward.

Her parents were devastated by the sick plot which has meant they have been prevented from seeing Shannon since she was placed in care in 2008.

But Matthews sent them a string of letters from prison asking for money.

Last night, a friend of the couple said: “June and Gordon do not talk about Karen as their daughter any more because her actions have meant that they cannot see Shannon and they absolutely loved that child.

“As soon as they heard that she was getting out they knew they had to move.

“She sent them letters from prison asking for forgiveness and for help and cash when she was freed.

“They never want to see her again and just didn’t want to waste time worrying when she would turn up on the doorstep with her hand out.”

The couple, in their 70s, had lived close to Matthews’s old address in Dewsbury but have now moved to another town in West Yorkshire.

As part of Karen’s condition of early release from her eight-year sentence, she must ask permission before returning to Dewsbury.

But the family pal added: “Those rules won’t be in place forever and Karen is so stupid that she could just turn up anyway without asking the proper authorities.

“Either way, June and Gordon aren’t taking any chances.” The friend revealed how the couple cannot see Shannon or another three of Karen’s seven children who were taken into care.

She added: “They loved all the kids and often had them to stay over at weekends.

“They had a special bond with Shannon though because she stayed with them for two months when she was born because Karen couldn’t cope.

“They often say that they wished she had never gone back to Karen.

“They will never forgive Karen for what she did and say she is evil. They have no room for forgiveness in their hearts when it comes to her.”

The couple still send the youngsters Christmas and birthday cards and presents but have to meet a social worker to hand over the gifts.

Their pal said Matthews’s release had brought back memories of their time spent with Shannon and her siblings and they were finding it difficult to cope with their emotions. She added: “What Karen did broke their hearts.

“She destroyed the family, tore it apart.

“June and Gordon are getting old now and they just want some peace – not Karen turning up.’’
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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2012, 05:36:PM »
 >:( Could someone please explain to me why the grandparents are being punished?  Why are they unable to see their grandchildren?  Why are the grandchildren unable to see them?  Would it not have been important for the children to have contact with responsible relatives, as long as they were in a safe enviroment?

Is it the case, that they are being punished soley for being the parents of Karen Matthews?.

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2012, 05:49:PM »
Oncesaid
I couldn't believe that either so unfair they should suffer for what the daughter did.
I would have thought it very important Shannon should have some contact with her natural grandparents
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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2012, 06:32:PM »
Shannon has an older brother who lives with his father.  Apparently he hadnt seen much of his daughter before she went missing. 

Seven children by 5 different fathers, another boy and girl being raised elsewhere before Shannon went missing, then the other three children who were living with Shannon at the time, were they all seperated from each other when they were taken into care?

This stupid woman has wrecked so many lives.  >:(

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2012, 06:10:PM »
Shannon has an older brother who lives with his father.  Apparently he hadnt seen much of his daughter before she went missing. 

Seven children by 5 different fathers, another boy and girl being raised elsewhere before Shannon went missing, then the other three children who were living with Shannon at the time, were they all seperated from each other when they were taken into care?

This stupid woman has wrecked so many lives.  >:(


that woman deserves a good hard kick in the v****a

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2012, 06:36:PM »


that woman deserves a good hard kick in the v****a

Perhaps it's a bit too late in the day. 

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2012, 06:50:PM »
Perhaps it's a bit too late in the day.
Looking at her I don't think she has one! Some bloke must have woke up in the morning, and thought Oh my god, surely I didn't. It happens to all males. Not me of course, I was just generalising.
Anyway you would be in danger of losing your foot.
Better to keep her here, and advertise her address.

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2012, 06:52:PM »
it just shows you the sort of men she can get when you look at that wierdo she was living with at the time

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2012, 06:55:PM »
Buddy your graphic description of Karen makes me ashamed to be a woman but the men are just as bad it would bother me less if they got themselves sterilised as what chance have the poor children got.

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2012, 09:53:PM »
Looking at her I don't think she has one! Some bloke must have woke up in the morning, and thought Oh my god, surely I didn't. It happens to all males. Not me of course, I was just generalising.
Anyway you would be in danger of losing your foot.
Better to keep her here, and advertise her address.


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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2012, 01:27:PM »
Where does it stop. Some women who, because of what they have seen demonstrated to them throughout their lives and because they have no other frame of reference, produce numerous children with numerous men, who may or may not support them, and many will rely on benefits all their lives. What's to be done about it?

Education? Many of these women aren't academic. Some leave school barely able to read and write, but most will become mothers, so perhaps we should make more effort to provide lessons on what motherhood means, cooking, not just heating,food, cleaning, mending, washing, budgeting.

How do we manage those mothers who produce prodigious amounts of children, with whom they can't cope? Easy to say we put them into care or make them available for adoption, but to most children, being taken from their mother, however poor a mother she has been, says to the child that it is they who have done something wrong, resulting in their mother no longer wanting them. The child will then see itself as being bad and unlovable, a belief that will colour the rest of its' life and cause it to behave accordingly. Some may benefit from therapy, but it could be that it's too painful a road to follow and it may prove easier to stick with what is already known.

So what's the answer? In a perfect world there wouldn't be the problem. Hitler had a vision of a perfect world. He ordered steralized all those females he considered unsuitable or unworthy of motherhood. Strange that, isn't it? In the animal world, it's the male who is steralized, hmmm. No, I'm not offering it as a solution but I'm no closer to seeing one, at least, not in the short term. What we are seeing is the result of generation upon generation of dysfuntionality and IMO, it will take many more generations before it can even start to be eradicated.

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Re: Karen Matthews Wants A New Life In Canada
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2012, 01:31:PM »
It's game over in my opinion.  The horse has bolted and there will be no eradication of the problem.  It will continue to grow until it surpasses the rate that 'functional' families themselves produce.  It's a bleak outlook.