Professor Herbert Leon McDonnell's report

[Alias]

Alias see my earlier post #114 lol

OH!  No comment.... 

[Patti]

OH!  No comment.... 

 

[Mr. Gee]

Dr Craig's description of the blood on the door was spatter.  The trajectory of the bullets was consistent with the shooter being somewhere near the foot of the bed not all the way on Nevill's side. For instance a shot went through her knee from front to back not right to left.

Why would he/she shoot her in the knee at so close a range?

[scipio_usmc]

Why would he/she shoot her in the knee at so close a range?

4 shots were definitely fired while she was in bed including the shot to her knee (the head shot, arm shot and shot that exited her back being the other 3) . The only shot for sure fired into her while out of bed was the one between her eyes.  The 2 remaining shots were fired with her no longer lying down in bed.  They could have been fired as she was sitting in bed trying to get up or while she was upright there is no way to know for sure whether she was still in bed or not.  The trajectories of these 2 could have been achieved with her seated or standing but not lying down.

 

[lookout]

Take a look at the pic of the poor woman on the floor. If as YOU say,that most shots were fired with her in bed,how on earth did she manage to move to the door of the bedroom when she was half dead ??

How can you possibly fire through layers of bedclothes and receive the full force of the bullets that it ripped her nightdress apart ??

[scipio_usmc]

Take a look at the pic of the poor woman on the floor. If as YOU say,that most shots were fired with her in bed,how on earth did she manage to move to the door of the bedroom when she was half dead ??

How can you possibly fire through layers of bedclothes and receive the full force of the bullets that it ripped her nightdress apart ??

What layers?  A night dress isn't that thick.  The most serious wounds she received were the shot to her head and between her eyes.  For sure she suffered the shot to her head while lying down in bed.  For sure after receiving such shot she still managed to stand upright out of bed.  The blood lekaing down her gown proves she stood upright for a little while.  Because of that head shot she did not stand very long and could not make it very far from the bed.   

The other wounds received definitely in bed -to her knee, arm and that went through her abdomen exiting through her back were not severe enough to prevent her from walking around.  She could have made it to the kichen with Nevill if those were her only wounds.  It was the head shot that stopped her from being able to make it far but didn't make her pass out fast enough to prevent her from rising first.

[guest154]

How can you possibly fire through layers of bedclothes and receive the full force of the bullets that it ripped her nightdress apart ??

Are you asking how a bullet can pass through a bed sheet? 

[Mr. Gee]

I think lookout's actual words were, " layers of bedclothes and receive the full force of the bullets" indicating many layers. I suppose it could be established if the bedclothes had holes in them? But I do not remember if that was ever said?

[Jane]

I think lookout's actual words were, " layers of bedclothes and receive the full force of the bullets" indicating many layers. I suppose it could be established if the bedclothes had holes in them? But I do not remember if that was ever said?

There couldn't have been THAT many layers. It was summer, after all.

[guest154]

There couldn't have been THAT many layers. It was summer, after all.

Certainly not enough to stop, or even slow down, a bullet. Or else you'd see the armed police walking around with bed sheets on them instead of bullet proof vests. 

[Jane]

Certainly not enough to stop, or even slow down, a bullet. Or else you'd see the armed police walking around with bed sheets on them instead of bullet proof vests. 

Draped like togas, perhaps :D

[Mr. Gee]

There couldn't have been THAT many layers. It was summer, after all.

That is just an assumption April. We don't actually know what it was like. If the moon was out then it could have been a clear night? I've known some cold nights in August in the countryside. Tell you what It may be hot in Vegas, but it's jolly chilly at night.

[Jane]

That is just an assumption April. We don't actually know what it was like. If the moon was out then it could have been a clear night? I've known some cold nights in August in the countryside. Tell you what It may be hot in Vegas, but it's jolly chilly at night.

It IS an assumption, Grahame but I can Be REALLY pedantic and talk about ambient daytime temperatures and the effects they would have on night temperatures. I can go into the type of bed linen used, ie, granny's hand stitched pure linen sheets or poly cotton, a blanket and eiderdown -SURELY the very most required on an early August night- or a duvet? All in all, I really don't think ANY of the afor mentioned would stop many bullets.

[lookout]

When it's been a warm day in August and once the sun goes down,it can turn chilly,hence the Aga having been on,also making allowances for Junes' age too. Long-sleeved nightdress as well,fastened to the neck.

As Mr G pointed out,we weren't shown any bullet holes in the bed linen.

[Jane]

When it's been a warm day in August and once the sun goes down,it can turn chilly,hence the Aga having been on,also making allowances for Junes' age too. Long-sleeved nightdress as well,fastened to the neck.

As Mr G pointed out,we weren't shown any bullet holes in the bed linen.

My friend's Aga runs ALL year round as it supplies her hot water, however, I have to agree that I haven't seen any pictures of bed linen with bullet holes, BUT, as we're surmising, with night attire such as June wore she COULD have thrown off the eiderdown/duvet and just had a sheet as covering. Many of my friends, June's age and older, still sleep nude.