still time for one last throw of the dice - before CCRC close case...

[mertol22]

The ccrc would have been very happy if Simon had walked away from jeremy, this has not happened and hopefully they are now going to be put on the hot spot, i try not to mix political overtones in  to the case but if this country is up to its eyeballs in debt then i know where to start to reduce that debt close down the ccrc i say that not out of anger but something that could happen.

[Bridget]

What would you replace it with Mertol, if anything?

[mertol22]

Ordinary people who are not affraid to have an open mind, to view cases on the person rather than whats better for the system and should there be the slightest credible element noted then to pass on to the appeal process.

[Bridget]

That's a nice idea, but you'd probably end up with a 10 year queue for the Court of Appeal.

Personally I'd like to see the CCRC better funded, and its statements of reasons made public.
 

[mertol22]

That's a nice idea, but you'd probably end up with a 10 year queue for the Court of Appeal.

Personally I'd like to see the CCRC better funded, and its statements of reasons made public.

Likewise its not going to happen they will never make public such details,if 1 of that panel lived in a council house or drove a basic 1000cc car i might just believe them as it is they are the sort who would use cases of demi sec  champers to wash off sand on their feet while chilling out in St Tropez.

[Bridget]

I don't really see how anyone can criticise a decision if they don't know the reasons behind it.

[mertol22]

I don't really see how anyone can criticise a decision if they don't know the reasons behind it.

In what form is that panel qualified to review such cases? , like many others in a position of power they do not have the logic to see reason, they are not judge and jury its abuse of position nothing more.

[Bridget]

I know they state they are there to investigate possible MoJs, but I see them more as a filter. JBs case aside, there are any number of guilty people in prisons who would love to be out. If it became just a matter of persuading a panel of Mondeo  men and women that there may be something a little iffy about their conviction the flood gates would open and the justice system would not only grind to a halt, it would go into reverse. So there has to be some system by which those who may genuinely be the victims of a MoJ can have their cases referred, but those who are just chancers are filtered out. That requires some expertise. I don't know what qualifications you expect the panel to have but they don't seem to be exactly thick. You may argue that they have not displayed that expertise, but as I said, unless you know why they came to a particular decision you cannot really criticise it.

The CCRC is very far from perfect IMO, but should be improved, not disbanded.

[mertol22]

I know they state they are there to investigate possible MoJs, but I see them more as a filter. JBs case aside, there are any number of guilty people in prisons who would love to be out. If it became just a matter of persuading a panel of Mondeo  men and women that there may be something a little iffy about their conviction the flood gates would open and the justice system would not only grind to a halt, it would go into reverse. So there has to be some system by which those who may genuinely be the victims of a MoJ can have their cases referred, but those who are just chancers are filtered out. That requires some expertise. I don't know what qualifications you expect the panel to have but they don't seem to be exactly thick. You may argue that they have not displayed that expertise, but as I said, unless you know why they came to a particular decision you cannot really criticise it.

The CCRC is very far from perfect IMO, but should be improved, not disbanded.

Is anything perfect ? , i thought i was dreaming when i saw the youtube inside black dolphin prison in Russia a hell on earth with no hope .

[guest7363]

I know they state they are there to investigate possible MoJs, but I see them more as a filter. JBs case aside, there are any number of guilty people in prisons who would love to be out. If it became just a matter of persuading a panel of Mondeo  men and women that there may be something a little iffy about their conviction the flood gates would open and the justice system would not only grind to a halt, it would go into reverse. So there has to be some system by which those who may genuinely be the victims of a MoJ can have their cases referred, but those who are just chancers are filtered out. That requires some expertise. I don't know what qualifications you expect the panel to have but they don't seem to be exactly thick. You may argue that they have not displayed that expertise, but as I said, unless you know why they came to a particular decision you cannot really criticise it. In other words a 96 per cent rejection rate.

The CCRC is very far from perfect IMO, but should be improved, not disbanded.

Good post Bridget, the ccrc have been cut from 11 to 9 people and out of 13000 cases reviewed only 4 per cent have been sent to court of appeal if I'm right? So not only the Jeremy bamber case gets rejected.

[guest7363]

Good post Bridget, the ccrc have been cut from 11 to 9 people and out of 13000 cases reviewed only 4 per cent have been sent to court of appeal if I'm right? So not only the Jeremy bamber case gets rejected.

In other words a 96 per cent rejection rate.

[Bridget]

I know it's pretty high, but I don't know the figures. There is also a massive difference between referrals of applicants with legal representation and those without. If as they proclaim, the CCRC are doing the investigating, there really shouldn't be a difference.

[boris50]

should of not been charged free him now his family no he is not guilty the police no his not guilty the only thing keeping him in prison is money to much to pay out and his is the sole person that gets it all bank of england would fall apart free him now

[ngb1066]

should of not been charged free him now his family no he is not guilty the police no his not guilty the only thing keeping him in prison is money to much to pay out and his is the sole person that gets it all bank of england would fall apart free him now

Boris - please introduce yourself in the Foyer.  Give us a bit of information about yourself and your interest in the case.

[ajross]

That's a nice idea, but you'd probably end up with a 10 year queue for the Court of Appeal.

Personally I'd like to see the CCRC better funded, and its statements of reasons made public.

When I started to look into it I was surprised to find that the statement isn't made public, I would have expected it to be for transparency, otherwise people speculate in just this way. Do they have a time limit on how long they can withhold it?