How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...

[bloggs and son]

Which now, if we are to believe American experts, has nothing to do with Sheila because it is possible that the gun was fired without the silencer.

Which we will eventually know if the CCRC allow JB's appeal to go ahead?

[vidvic]

Pressure, pressure, pressure.... Mugford comes forward (but actually doesn't come forward).... silencer with adults blood appears, as if by magic?

Only, it was the other way around.

[Roch]

Only, it was the other way around.

In which sense? 

[vidvic]

David found the silencer a while before mugford came forward.

[elphick]

There is simply no proof of any call from nevill to anyone, only bamber's word.

Even if you take bamber's word, listen to his last recorded interviews with the guardian. He is quite clear. He said Sheila.

The original trial was set around this phrase, as it meant that either bamber or Sheila, no one else, could be responsible.

This is a good post.

[bloggs and son]

David found the silencer a while before mugford came forward.

Which is what I said I think?

[mertol22]

Pressure, pressure, pressure.... Mugford comes forward (but actually doesn't come forward).... silencer with adults blood appears, as if by magic?

Like the shop keeper in Mr Benn pick a costume to suit jeremy.

[Roch]

David found the silencer a while before mugford came forward.

With blood on it     But knowledge that this bloody silencer was away at the lab with results awaited, didn't come in to play regarding the 6th September review reporting to top brass (which nobody knew about for 27 years)?  And the police telephone record states he found it on 11th September?

[Nuala]

Like the shop keeper in Mr Benn pick a costume to suit jeremy.

Nice one, Mertol 

[tonyb]

Which now, if we are to believe American experts, has nothing to do with Sheila because it is possible that the gun was fired without the silencer.

and Possible fired with the silencer? or has that been catagoricaly ruled out by the US experts?

[bloggs and son]

and Possible fired with the silencer? or has that been catagoricaly ruled out by the US experts?

Because of the actions of the CCRC we may never know?

[Bridget]

With blood on it     But knowledge that this bloody silencer was away at the lab with results awaited, didn't come in to play regarding the 6th September review reporting to top brass (which nobody knew about for 27 years)?  And the police telephone record states he found it on 11th September?

Does the telephone record actually say that, or is it a record dated the 11th of September which mentions that he found a silencer but doesn't say when?

[vidvic]

Does the telephone record actually say that, or is it a record dated the 11th of September which mentions that he found a silencer but doesn't say when?

Does it say, silencer found in gun cupboard?

[Patti]

Hi Patti, I'd happily believe that Ralph was forced to make the call to Jeremy (since it was cut off) but I can't reconcile that with the purported evidence that Ralph also called the police directly, giving a coherent account. I can't see him being forced to make two calls. Additionally, I can't see a third party taking such a risk, since they would not have known the whereabouts of any mobile units - for example a car may have only been 5 minutes away.

What do you think of the evidence that Ralph called the police directly? Do you think he did?

Hi Elphick, I'm not 100% sure that is a telephone log from Nevill. Both logs were done West, but each one is different....It could be that he made another log outlining what Jeremy had told him about his father's call to HQ.  I suppose it could be debated in court that it was Nevill, it would be up to the jury to decide.  It is possible that he was forced to make a call and phoned JB up instead of the police and was cut off...then forced to make a call to police, but why?

It could be that someone wanted JB over there......to make is look like 6 murders...or JB was set up....Or Sheila did shoot her family........

[Patti]

Patti, I concur with all you say here, which leads me to my next question. When Neville phoned Jeremy did he say ".....your sister", "Sheila", "She"(maybe a family diminuative for Sheila) OR did he perhaps, say "she", which may have meant June, and he couldn't bring himself to say it?

Hi april. Jeremy does doubt this in his early statement....but he is now adamant that she did it.  I am 80 % convinced she did, but there is a part of me that can't except certain things. I am also 100% sure JB did not, he didn't have the guts to kill......On the other hand he could have been fooled for 27 years into thinking it was Sheila...He has never given up, I will say that for him and, neither would I...