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« Reply #825 on: May 28, 2012, 12:12:PM »
Re The Posts    813, 820 and 821, by Mike and Grahame, could someone say, whether the itemised Billing, allegedly held and withheld by EP, would indicate the timing, duration, and ORIGIN, of PB's all important call to her sister, on the eve of the massacre?
Personally I'm not sure they exist. But if they did then the times would certainly be present as they are today because that is the purpose of them.

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« Reply #826 on: May 28, 2012, 12:26:PM »
The billing campion mentioned wouldn't show PB's call at all, because it would, at best, be on PB's bill, not Nevill's.

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« Reply #827 on: May 28, 2012, 12:27:PM »
Grahame don,t give sheep too much credit they would not know what to do with a camera probably think it was a Yorkshire Pudding.
They haven't been here Susan and thats it. They will have to be careful when they sit down, because they my crush their miniscule brains. ;D What a load of gullible tit heads they are over there on the silly forum. I really am amazed at the very real lack of brains there are there. Which is hardly surprising if they are followers of old numpty features Lamberton...BAAAAAA. ;D ;D

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« Reply #828 on: May 28, 2012, 12:28:PM »
The billing campion mentioned wouldn't show PB's call at all, because it would, at best, be on PB's bill, not Nevill's.
Sorry I'm a bit slow this morning. Who's PB?

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« Reply #829 on: May 28, 2012, 12:54:PM »
PB = Pamela Boutflour.

Regarding vidvic's post, it's been stated by mike tesko that he will post those bills once Jeremy's current CCRC application has been settled (i.e. with no further review possible). Also, mike tesko didn't say he had a copy of the image handed in to the CCRC, only a copy of a different image that he'd "lost" years ago, and hadn't acknowledged before because he'd taken it from Ewen Smith without authorization. The alleged importance of the 'Z' image is that it showed clearly that Sheila had only one wound; mike hadn't seen such an image until shown it by 'Z' recently, so GDS presumably didn't know about it.

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« Reply #830 on: May 28, 2012, 12:58:PM »
Hi Grahame  I was told that all 5 of them are very young and immature.

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« Reply #831 on: May 28, 2012, 01:45:PM »
Hi  Reader, I am obliged to you for your Communications expertise. You got the gist of my enquiry about details of Auntie Pam's significant late night telephone call. O K, sew if JB and WHF  were under (special branch) surveillance for a month, prior to the slaughter, would not EP, via S----------H (  PII ) BE AWARE OF THIS INFORMATION??

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« Reply #832 on: May 28, 2012, 02:09:PM »
Well I see the fact that a panic alarm was fitted to be very significant and has been overlooked by some. Because the reason that it was installed was because of the very real threat to the Bamber family.
I have a theory that of course cannot be proved one way or another. It is just my theory. It has subjective evidence which is the say so of a certain contact that I have (it isn't an attempt to be cloak and dagger by the way).

Here's what my theory is. Jeremy receives a call in the early morning from his father telling him that Sheila has gone crazy with the gun/a gun. That was Ralph who was being forced by a third party assassin (the one or ones who had threatened the family's lives. The attacker/s beat him until he complied with their request and threatened to shoot the others or one of the family if be didn't. This was an attempt by them to get Jeremy round to WHF. Instead Jeremy phoned the police. On hearing police cars approaching up Pages Lane the killer/s killed the rest of the family, or Sheila if she was the last to die (quite easy for two people to force her head backwards in order to shoot her by pulling her hair back). before fleeing the house by unknown means (man seen scuttling away from the farm).
Operation half successful. Unfortunately Jeremy wasn't there or he would have been their last victim and their task would have been complete and a perfect murder.
The rest you can make what you will of it.

But what I will say is this: There are certain people in very influential positions whom it will not benefit to see Jeremy released. I have believed this for some time. Let me ask you one question. Why are their so many people who are interested in the case of Jeremy Bamber? And why are so many people concerned at the prospect of his release? I'm sorry, but it just isn't good enough to say its because he's child murderer. There are many other child murderers who don't even receive a fraction of the publicity that JB has, or have receive even a quarter of the hatred that JB has.
So WHY are people so interested in him and why are they so concerned for him to remain in jail? It is as if the CCRC are accommodating someone by wilfully preventing the simplest of evidence to pass their eyes? They are protecting someone and this someone (And I said this at the very beginning remember) has perhaps millions invested in this? Mark my words. I will be very surprised (but pleased) if JB's legal team win this Judicial review?

Mark this also. Why has Simon McKay been researched and some are trying their hardest to discredit him as soon as he took up this case? I can name at least three people who have done so. Why now? Why not at any other time? Why as soon as he took up JB's case? I am afraid JB has a very big fight in order to obtain his get out of jail card. Because thiscase goes right to the top and it involves vast sums of money and big business. I have said this from the very beginning. There are dark forces that are at work here (I'm not being religious here) these forces are quite tangible and real and are doing their utmost to keep JB in prison.

Just look at the hatred against those who think him innocent. Just think of the vast resistance by a great deal of people and those who mock those who think he is innocent. It is quite unnatural and seemingly paranoid reactions to it all. eg: Just the other day Rochford made a very simple and obvious question to a member who has obviously rejoined the forum and had been frequenting the silly other forum and the immediate reaction to his comment was "you're paranoid". What a strange reaction. They obviously couldn't see that it was their reaction that was paranoid and not Rochford.

Now as I said my view of events is only a theory and probably leaves itself open to many questions which could be justified. But the last piece of information I gave you. That is real. I have known almost from the beginning and that is the reason JB will have a devil of a fight to get out of Gaol. You will be surprised just how high this thing goes and there are people on this forum who know that what I am saying to you is true.

Hi, Grahame, and thankyou for your insightful and impassioned response.

Whilst I admit to not being  quite as convinced as you of Jeremy's innocence, I suspect you have the same abhorrence of injustice as I.

It is interesting that I've posted, on another thread, almost the same as you have said in the paragraph in which you begin "But what I will say is this," however, I suspect that my knowledge is more instinctive than yours and sadly, much of what I "know" has no basis other than my own conviction.

To accept your theory, there are several questions which need answering and whist I have the feeling that you could give them, I think you maybe, either can't or won't. I would like to know which member of this quiet, selfcontained, respectable, middle class family had attracted the attention of an assassination squad, and why? What you imply goes way beyond any petty, interfamilial squabbles over position, property or land and whilst the family could be described as being "comfortable," I very much doubt their coffers contained "vast sums". That being so, what is left? Neville, well liked, trusted, respected, taking backhanders!!!? He was a local magistrate, not a highcourt judge. Jeremy getting his fingers burned by playing with the "big boys?" I do believe he liked to portray himself as one of their number because he thought it "bigged" him up, impressed others but I don't believe he was anywhere near as clever as he wished to be seen, so for this reason I don't see him as masterminding anything which resulted in the wholesale slaughter of his family and whilst, back then, he came across as an arrogant poseur who treated both police and press with a degree of contempt (perhaps with reason) it didn't make him a murderer.

I get what you say about feelings regarding Jeremy as running high. A person of my acquaintance was appalled when I mentioned his name, but for the most part, those feelings are contained within this forum. I'm aware there have been some contentious issues and that some members treat others less than courteously but thankfully most of us are able to enjoy an exchange of views and are open enough to change our own views if someone elses makes more sense.

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« Reply #833 on: May 28, 2012, 02:24:PM »
I don't know what information exists about SB involvement, except that nobody has disputed that Ps Woodcock was in SB at the time. SB are very secretive. According to mike tesko, Jeremy was being investigated in relation to drugs. That needn't have involved SB. I doubt whether it's known whether that investigation ever included keeping a log of any calls, let alone whether such logging was being done on the night in question.

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« Reply #834 on: May 28, 2012, 03:01:PM »
Hi  Reader, I am obliged to you for your Communications expertise. You got the gist of my enquiry about details of Auntie Pam's significant late night telephone call. O K, sew if JB and WHF  were under (special branch) surveillance for a month, prior to the slaughter, would not EP, via S----------H (  PII ) BE AWARE OF THIS INFORMATION??
You've got it campion. Can anybody tell me the significance of this picture? (it is copyright by the way so it may not be here long. It also is classed as secret)

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« Reply #835 on: May 28, 2012, 03:12:PM »
The ultimate phallic symbol?

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« Reply #836 on: May 28, 2012, 03:14:PM »
You've got it campion. Can anybody tell me the significance of this picture? (it is copyright by the way so it may not be here long. It also is classed as secret)

What is it Grahame?


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« Reply #837 on: May 28, 2012, 03:17:PM »
Hi, Grahame, and thankyou for your insightful and impassioned response.

Whilst I admit to not being  quite as convinced as you of Jeremy's innocence, I suspect you have the same abhorrence of injustice as I.

It is interesting that I've posted, on another thread, almost the same as you have said in the paragraph in which you begin "But what I will say is this," however, I suspect that my knowledge is more instinctive than yours and sadly, much of what I "know" has no basis other than my own conviction.

To accept your theory, there are several questions which need answering and whist I have the feeling that you could give them, I think you maybe, either can't or won't. I would like to know which member of this quiet, selfcontained, respectable, middle class family had attracted the attention of an assassination squad, and why? What you imply goes way beyond any petty, interfamilial squabbles over position, property or land and whilst the family could be described as being "comfortable," I very much doubt their coffers contained "vast sums". That being so, what is left? Neville, well liked, trusted, respected, taking backhanders!!!? He was a local magistrate, not a highcourt judge. Jeremy getting his fingers burned by playing with the "big boys?" I do believe he liked to portray himself as one of their number because he thought it "bigged" him up, impressed others but I don't believe he was anywhere near as clever as he wished to be seen, so for this reason I don't see him as masterminding anything which resulted in the wholesale slaughter of his family and whilst, back then, he came across as an arrogant poseur who treated both police and press with a degree of contempt (perhaps with reason) it didn't make him a murderer.

I get what you say about feelings regarding Jeremy as running high. A person of my acquaintance was appalled when I mentioned his name, but for the most part, those feelings are contained within this forum. I'm aware there have been some contentious issues and that some members treat others less than courteously but thankfully most of us are able to enjoy an exchange of views and are open enough to change our own views if someone elses makes more sense.
Hi April. I can tell you two things. (1) Ralph and his family had received death threats. I believe it was from someone he sent down? (2) Jeremy was (it is said by some) involved in drug smuggling. Regarding this I think that Jeremy may be holding back on information? Then again, maybe he has nothing to tell? I can tell you one more thing about Ralph which I cannot elaborate on. Several men from his old regiment died under mysterious circumstances.

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« Reply #838 on: May 28, 2012, 03:18:PM »
What is it Grahame?
Let's see if someone can tell us?

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« Reply #839 on: May 28, 2012, 03:30:PM »
What is it Grahame?

.....and where is it?