The very best of luck to Jeremy

[bob]

OK Bob I take that on board but you could argue that maybe many other legal professionals have not looked deeply into the case the way Simon McKay and ngb have.  As they have and are committed to Jeremy surely that should carry some weight?

Maybe maggie, but I'm sure there were equivalent legal bods supporting Adrian Prout until recently 

[Roch]

answering as fully as I can, from what I know as fact rather than just guessing or using reasonable doubt, there are two things that experts have said that they need more testing done on. One is something to do with Sheila and the main one is the burn marks.


But when you submit something so vital you need it to be 100%.  Saying "The burns were done with the silence on/off" But "more tests are needed" is a huge contradiction.

Unless the tests which had already been carried out could be knocked, surely the prize of ascertaining the truth of what actually took place that night, would have been better served by granting more time for further testing?

[maggie]

Maybe maggie, but I'm sure there were equivalent legal bods supporting Adrian Prout until recently 

Sorry Bob, I know nothing about Adrian Prout. I just can't do the whole deda deda deda that I believe in tonight. I long for Badgler and his logic.

[bob]

Sorry Bob, I know nothing about Adrian Prout. I just can't do the whole deda deda deda that I believe in tonight. I long for Badgler and his logic.

Lord knows, we all mourn the disappearance of Wodge Badgler maggie! If only he were here to divine the true workings of the CCRC...

[guest154]

Unless the tests which had already been carried out could be knocked, surely the prize of ascertaining the truth of what actually took place that night, would have been better served by granting more time for further testing?

Jeremy had extensions. He changed his legal team though, didn't he?
He knows what the next course of action is and has already put the wheels in motion for this. CRCC was a long shot at best.

[maggie]

Lord knows, we all mourn the disappearance of Wodge Badgler maggie! If only he were here to divine the true workings of the CCRC...

Oh bob, I miss him so much.

[Nuala]

answering as fully as I can, from what I know as fact rather than just guessing or using reasonable doubt, there are two things that experts have said that they need more testing done on. One is something to do with Sheila and the main one is the burn marks.


But when you submit something so vital you need it to be 100%.  Saying "The burns were done with the silence on/off" But "more tests are needed" is a huge contradiction.




No, it's not a 'huge contradiction', it's honesty. .




Jeremy did say that the phone did not work. I remember reading this many years ago. And recently a reporter I know wrote a great piece in the DailyMail about this and the quote was the main thing that he went off.



Then why wasn't Jeremy cross examined about this at the trial and why wasn't the house keeper examined about it either?



It's very easy for you to say that I don't know much about the case. How do you know thaT? i'm sure I have been following it longer than you.



I'm sure you have too, but you appear to have cherry picked soley the evidence you want to hear and have written this alone on your crib cards.



I'll try and speak to as many people as I can here and be as open as I can do - but don't be so hostile or I'll just close up.




That cuts both ways.  If you stop sneering, we won't be goaded into hostile responses.



I guess in a way they were put on the back burner. But bascially they were re-written/edited and had more added to them but McKay's actual submissions and the ones in existence ones after him coming aboard aren't all that different other than the fact more tests had been done, yet not complete ones, and they used a lot more hear-say than you'd believe.

[Nuala]

Unless the tests which had already been carried out could be knocked, surely the prize of ascertaining the truth of what actually took place that night, would have been better served by granting more time for further testing?

Precisely. Any commission aiming to get at the truth would take that view.

[guest154]

I'm not sneering at you or anyone, you're just mis-understanding the tone of my posts.

[JackiePreece]

Mat make sure you come back tomorrow when Neil is on here and then we will see what you really know

[guest154]

Neil is a good guy.

[Roch]

Jeremy had extensions. He changed his legal team though, didn't he?
He knows what the next course of action is and has already put the wheels in motion for this. CRCC was a long shot at best.

I understand that authorities & processes work to deadlines of course.  Though it doesn't seem to work both ways.  For example requesting the CCRC to discharge duties under section 17 of criminal appeal act.  They certainly do not seem beholden to any deadline on that score, despite assurances given in 2005. 

Changing his legal team is irrelevant to the truth of what took place.  If no silencer was involved in the shots to Sheila, this represents a major piece in that jigsaw.  By default it calls in to question aspects of the investigation and the authenticity of the silencer as an exhibit. 

Yet we end up with a situation where the alleged discoverer of this silencer, gets to tell everyone via the national news about how scared he is of retribution, from the man who never used the silencer in the first place.

We live in a strange world

[JackiePreece]

Precisely. Any commission aiming to get at the truth would take that view.

Exactly Keira but they don't want to do they!!!

Mat shall I expect you sometime after 11 am tomorrow for an audience with Ngb1066?

[maggie]

Neil is a good guy.

So if Neil is a good guy, is he also a stupid guy?

[guest154]

Jackie, what are you talknig about? I think you're unhigned. It NGB has anything to say to me, he will say it to me himself, he can even pick up the phone.
It won't be said through you.

I understand that authorities & processes work to deadlines of course.  Though it doesn't seem to work both ways.  For example requesting the CCRC to discharge duties under section 17 of criminal appeal act.  They certainly do not seem beholden to any deadline on that score, despite assurances given in 2005. 

Think we both know that those assurances are bullshit.

So if Neil is a good guy, is he also a stupid guy?

I thought you meant the member NEIL and not NGB. No, NGB isn't sutpid but any involvement he had in the CRCC submission won't be his finest hour of work.