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Offline maggie

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #285 on: April 12, 2012, 12:12:PM »
Maybe a good solution would be for the land, assets and the caravan park be donated to a children's charity/mental health charity as a permanent memorial to the twins. I bet Colin would like to see that
  I like that Jackie. I really don't think revenge would be good for Jeremy tho' the picture of him returning like an 'avenging angel' has it's attractions.

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #286 on: April 12, 2012, 12:14:PM »
Maybe a good solution would be for the land, assets and the caravan park be donated to a children's charity/mental health charity as a permanent memorial to the twins. I bet Colin would like to see that

Sounds like a plan.

Although I think there is the small matter of persuading the state to overturn his conviction before you get too carried away.

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« Reply #287 on: April 12, 2012, 12:40:PM »
Sounds like a plan.

Although I think there is the small matter of persuading the state to overturn his conviction before you get too carried away.

Hartley, unlikely a scenario as it may seem, are you able envisage what the relatives reaction towards Jeremy would be, if one or more former police officers linked to the case came forward to express that Sheila had been alive prior to the police raid and Jeremy had been framed for the murders?

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« Reply #288 on: April 12, 2012, 12:44:PM »
Should he ever quash his convictions, I believe he should choose his language and actions with great caution.

Should he ever quash his convictions then yes I also believe he should choose his language and actions with great caution.

Having hopefully learnt (if innocent) that some of his language and actions all those years ago did him no favours - imo.




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« Reply #289 on: April 12, 2012, 12:49:PM »
Hartley, unlikely a scenario as it may seem, are you able envisage what the relatives reaction towards Jeremy would be, if one or more former police officers linked to the case came forward to express that Sheila had been alive prior to the police raid and Jeremy had been framed for the murders?

I have no idea, I could use my imagination I suppose, particularly if the information resided with an officer who maintained contact, but I'm pretty sure you would get to the same place if you used your own imagination.

I don't mean to be disrespectful to your question, but I just don't personally see it's relevance and in any event I'm not really blessed with the information to provide you with an accurate answer.

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #290 on: April 12, 2012, 12:59:PM »
Rochy but you are saying this extended family should keep millions of pounds when they tried to set Jeremy up for murder

Robert Boutflour misled the jury re who would inherit

David Boutflour misled the jury about Sheila and her knowledge of guns

Anne Eaton tried to mislead everyone about Jeremys character (read her statements about Jeremys character and Barbara Wilsons)

I don't believe they were victims
Look at their behaviour after the murders they were not grief-stricken

Anne Eaton tried to make out she was friends with Sheila but didn't even know one twin from another

JB was well and truly set up, he was the victim




I totally agree with you that Jeremy was the victim, Jackie. I have never seen the extended family as victims as they were far too quick and eager to put aside their grief and devote themselves to disconnecting Jeremy from his freedom and inheritance.

let's not forget that the extended family were bequeathed merely token sums under June and Nevill Bamber's Wills. They made huge gains as a result of Jeremy's imprisonment and loss of his inheritance.
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #291 on: April 12, 2012, 01:03:PM »
Jackie, I believe they have suffered a grievous loss, the like of which the average person could not possible comprehend.

At the same time, I believe he should tell them to 'shove' their inheritance.   The truth of what took place lies with the police.  The truth of the investigation lies with both the police and relatives.

Bamber was framed and I have major doubts he was involved in any way whatsoever.

Should he ever quash his convictions, I believe he should choose his language and actions with great caution.


It was Jeremy's inheritance, not 'theirs', Rocky, they only benefitted from it as a result of Jeremy's wrongful conviction. I would think Jeremy will want his inheritance returned to him - and good luck to him!

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #292 on: April 12, 2012, 01:06:PM »
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I have no idea, I could use my imagination I suppose, particularly if the information resided with an officer who maintained contact, but I'm pretty sure you would get to the same place if you used your own imagination.

It's interesting to me that one of the officers who has maintained contact is one of those most closely linked to the silencer evidence. 

Using my imagination, If an officer came forward who did not belong to the same group that has maintained contact with the relatives, I can hardly see why they would undermine such former colleagues, save for the reason that those former colleagues had been lying.


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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #293 on: April 12, 2012, 01:23:PM »
Quite how losing 5 members of your close family is classed as a benefit is beyond me. Keira, for someone with your skill and knowledge of looking into local history, for you to continue your ludicrous claims that in some way this family or families 'needed the money' is hard to take.
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #294 on: April 12, 2012, 01:24:PM »
Very good post Rochy
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« Reply #295 on: April 12, 2012, 01:25:PM »
Should jeremy walk , i would hope very much WHF is empty asap however things need sorting and ultra fast , i.e stopping squatters moving in , nosy parkers , ghoul searchers, sadly we live in a rubbish world, the land would need sorting as well, if i was jeremy i would sell the lot flatten WHF and move out of England.

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #296 on: April 12, 2012, 01:27:PM »
Should jeremy walk , i would hope very much WHF is empty asap however things need sorting and ultra fast , i.e stopping squatters moving in , nosy parkers , ghoul searchers, sadly we live in a rubbish world, the land would need sorting as well, if i was jeremy i would sell the lot flatten WHF and move out of England.

Mertol. WHF is rented.
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #297 on: April 12, 2012, 01:29:PM »
Mertol. WHF is rented.
I get the impression he didn't like it there anyway?

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #298 on: April 12, 2012, 01:30:PM »
Should jeremy walk , i would hope very much WHF is empty asap however things need sorting and ultra fast , i.e stopping squatters moving in , nosy parkers , ghoul searchers, sadly we live in a rubbish world, the land would need sorting as well, if i was jeremy i would sell the lot flatten WHF and move out of England.

I'm sure the 'Henry Smith Charity' would manage the properties that they own as they see fit.

In any event, there could well be some planning issues in demolishing a grade II listed building.  :-\

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #299 on: April 12, 2012, 01:30:PM »
Mertol. WHF is rented.
Anyone with a brain would flatten it as a sign of closure not carry on for greed.