Diary Entries of a Conspirator...

[Adam]

unfortunately a lot of this cannot be confirmed can it.

what do you think of the relatives  saying Sheila should have black flowers on her coffin?

What do you think of them not telling Granny Bamber that  JB was alive ?

Do you think it right that they got her to change her will BEFORE he had even been tried?

What do you think about the police feeding the family with confidential information about the crime ?

Very well done Jan.

Going into to overdrive to rubbish that nasty Robert Boutflours lies.

Well he said it. It's in his diaries. On page 1.

[David1819]

sorry it was granny Speakman

And two weeks before her will was changed she was declared unfit for police interview.

Are there any documents to prove this? really stinks of a conspiracy.

[Jan]

RB was asked about the changing of the will I think in the 1991 COLP interviews . I will find that tomorrow. I know I read about the request for the interview somewhere but not quite sure where at the moment

[Adam]

I am going to shout at you now - THERE IS ONLY ONE SOURCE -THE FAMILY - THE REST ARE NOT SOURCES - AND JB SAID HE COULD GET IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE BUT NO WINDOWS LOCKED FROM THE OUTSIDE - AND BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PROVEN THE COURT RULED THAT IT DID NOT HAVE TO BE PROVEN BECAUSE OF WHAT JB SAID!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you not shout. Patti has asked other posters not to.

You do not decide what is or is not a source. Anyway RB is family.

I praised you in my last post for defending 'poor' Jeremy. But fighting 14 top quality sources is going too far.

But feel free to fight RB diaries. There is no dispute he said these things. But you can accuse him of lying. Although he has mentioned a lot of other people who can dispute what he says and most of what is said could be checked.

[Patti]

Can you not shout. Patti has asked other posters not to.

You do not decide what is or is not a source. Anyway RB is family.

I praised you in my last post for defending 'poor' Jeremy. But fighting 14 top quality sources is going too far.

But feel free to fight RB diaries. There is no dispute he said these things. But you can accuse him of lying. Although he has mentioned a lot of other people who can dispute what he says and most of what is said could be checked.

And neither do you Adam....

[Adam]

I have shown you a document that said when the operator called Witham that they had only just returned from another job . So the above is rubbish.

You're source was rubbish. A phone will be constantly manned.

Not every single person at a police station will leave when they get a call. There may be a call from a distressed son. Or from another police station.

[Patti]

sorry it was granny Speakman

And two weeks before her will was changed she was declared unfit for police interview.

That is correct Jan. 

[Adam]

And neither do you Adam....

Never saying I did. Jan is the one who brought up primary sources. Although never explained what they are.

Grahame kindly said several of my 13 (now 14) kitchen window sources were 'primary sources'.

[Patti]

Never saying I did. Jan is the one who brought up primary sources. Although never explained what they are.

Grahame kindly said several of my 13 (now 14) kitchen window sources were 'primary sources'.

Don't get me started on the windows Adam. Please.  ;

[Jan]

for David - fromAnnes 72 page COLP interview 1991
it was definitely changed before the trial - I guess JB was not aware of this. Also Colin said in his book he was upset as he was not allowed to  see her as the family would not let him.

[Adam]

The problem supporters have is they can just refute the evidence and what people say.

Today it has been the silencer, Julie and Robert Boutflour.

The silencer is evidence. Julie and RB said these things. All have to be incorrect for Jeremy to be innocent. But there is no proof that they are incorrect.

New evidence needs to be created highlighting innocence. But none has been found. Except Neville's call to the police. Opps.

[Jan]

Can you not shout. Patti has asked other posters not to.

You do not decide what is or is not a source. Anyway RB is family.

I praised you in my last post for defending 'poor' Jeremy. But fighting 14 top quality sources is going too far.

But feel free to fight RB diaries. There is no dispute he said these things. But you can accuse him of lying. Although he has mentioned a lot of other people who can dispute what he says and most of what is said could be checked.

I am free to fight them and I never said they were lies - I said he can say what he wants about what Neville said or did - but we can not prove that can we because NB  cannot answer for himself.

Strange that Jean the house keeper who knew the family ( better than the family probably according to the police) said she never witnessed any arguments - none at all .

And I am not defining what an OS source is . Its a fact not defined by me .

Sorry you lose on that one.

[Jan]

The problem supporters have is they can just refute the evidence and what people say.

Today it has been the silencer, Julie and Robert Boutflour.

The silencer is evidence. Julie and RB said these things. All have to be incorrect for Jeremy to be innocent. But there is no proof that they are incorrect.

New evidence needs to be created highlighting innocence. But none has been found. Except Neville's call to the police. Opps.

Perhaps it already has but JB is making sure it is presented in the correct and legal way . this forum wont be the place you will hear it first .

[Adam]

I am free to fight them and I never said they were lies - I said he can say what he wants about what Neville said or did - but we can not prove that can we because NB  cannot answer for himself.

Strange that Jean the house keeper who knew the family ( better than the family probably according to the police) said she never witnessed any arguments - none at all .

And I am not defining what an OS source is . Its a fact not defined by me .

Sorry you lose on that one.

Please see post 175.

All you can do is claim RB's diaries are lies. But have no proof
 
Most of what he said can be checked. He mentions another person when saying about Jeremy making Neville cry. Anyway other people have said they had a poor relationship.

[Jan]

I saw post 175 .

Of course  in the eyes of the law there is no proof

yet .