The (Andrew Hunter) Book draft, that never got published from seven years ago...

[lookout]

I think Jeremy panicked with all the bullets he had fired thus far along with the bicycle journey and the influence of the drugs and misplaced the first shot to Sheila,whereupon she was stunned and involuntarily moved her finger to the wound,hence the blood on the hand. I would have thought it would have been the easiest thing in the world to position the second shot so that it killed Sheila instantaneously.

The rifle would have had to have been on her person to have receieved a shot like that last one ( close proximity ) to have entered the brain.
Blimey,Steve,,Jeremy would have had to have been a contortionist to deliver such a shot.

[grahameb]

OK...It's lesson time.

1) Firstly I haven't insulted you, so you can get off your high horse straight away.
2) Next, don't lecture me and suggest I know nothing about people when you have just been on here and no doubt many times before with a half brained idea of something you know nothing about, particularly when it happens to be part of my profession.
3) And here's the real lesson.
That rifle appears to be an Anshutz 525 model. It cannot be fired single shot unless A) The bolt is pulled back; the magazine is released; a round inserted into the magazine; the magazine reinserted; the bolt is released forward again....Or, B) the magazine is discarded and an adapter put in it's place.

So it isn't the latter scenario, because it is clearly the magazine in the rifle..........but for it to be the former scenario; it would have taken an eternity to remove the magazine and load a single round 15/16 times (assuming it was full for the first 10 shots)..

..............certainly impossible for SB/C to have done and very improbable for JB to have done.

....................Regardless whether he had been brought up on a farm and around arms and ammunition, it would be the most illogical way of using the rifle......he wasn't exactly combat material was he??

Jack

You're a bit of a dick aren't you.

[JackAll]

You're a bit of a dick aren't you.

Now that is being insulting..............






Still I can roll with that sort of thing as I have more knowledge of the subject than you because I know my dick is bigger than yours.

[Steve_uk]

Steve I was arguing against a third person at the scene. Surely a third person completely unconnected with Bamber would not know about the gun being left on the settle, let along what other guns were in the house? My argument is, why woulf a third person murderer choose a rabbit gun as it is not exactly the most efficient weapon to be used in an assassin's armoury? The who scene is against the third person theory. It must be either or the other. Either it was Jeremy or it was Sheila.
My original post was that Sheila was quite capable of the murders of 4 family members and with the first magazine she could very well disable everyone in the house and then take her time in loading the gun. She needen't have loaded the magazine fully either. And a so called "fight" with Ralph need not have taken place? Indeed he could have been beaten after he had been disabled. So you see my argument is not so lame as has been suggested and ridiculed by some.

I suppose suspicion would still have to be thrown on Sheila even if Jeremy had engineered a hitman,though one would have thought that he would have provided a better alibi for himself than a purported telephone call to his answerphone.

[lookout]

Now that is being insulting..............






Still I can roll with that sort of thing because I know my dick is bigger than yours.

Jack,,are you a cop ?

[grahameb]

Now that is being insulting..............

Oh sorry. You're a "professional" dick. You won't know what an insult is until you tackle me you little jumped up tyro. I think you ought to delete your account and then join again when you can be a bit more humble, don't you?

[JackAll]

Jack,,are you a cop ?

That's even more insulting............However, my brother is and he is in Essex Plod.

[grahameb]

I suppose suspicion would still have to be thrown on Sheila even if Jeremy had engineered a hitman,though one would have thought that he would have provided a better alibi for himself than a purported telephone call to his answerphone.

Yes that does kind of swing the blame his way if the phone call was not genuine? That is probably why I lean more towards Sheila committing the murders and not some "unrelated" hit-man

[grahameb]

Now that is being insulting..............






Still I can roll with that sort of thing as I have more knowledge of the subject than you because I know my dick is bigger than yours.

Yes I suppose that is true. I can't counter that one.

[Patti]

Jack,,are you a cop ?

If he's not he has a very large truncheon 

[JackAll]

Oh sorry. You're a "professional" dick. You won't know what an insult is until you tackle me you little jumped up tyro. I think you ought to delete your account and then join again when you can be a bit more humble, don't you?

At least I'm not a useless dick who has obviously been castrated at some stage; otherwise you wouldn't need to try and impose your own lack of importance.

[Patti]

Oi you two pack it in....

[grahameb]

If he's not he has a very large truncheon 

I want to make love to her. Not beat her to death.

[Jane]

I think Jeremy panicked with all the bullets he had fired thus far along with the bicycle journey and the influence of the drugs and misplaced the first shot to Sheila,whereupon she was stunned and involuntarily moved her finger to the wound,hence the blood on the hand. I would have thought it would have been the easiest thing in the world to position the second shot so that it killed Sheila instantaneously.

Steve, were you aware that we have a new member who KNOWS that it wouldn't have been possible for Jeremy to do that bike ride along the seawall that night because there was work being done to it, of which his own father was in charge.

[grahameb]

At least I'm not a useless dick who has obviously been castrated at some stage; otherwise you wouldn't need to try and impose your own lack of importance.

Ok Jack. Let's start again. You're right I'm not that important. Just another member. I apologise and bow to your superior knowledge.