Big mistake

[grahameb]

Facebook- once about 4 years ago
Twitter- never.
Gibraltar- once on a day trip from Puerto Banus. 10 years ago Those Barbary Apes are nasty little creatures that just won't leave you alone.

The irony of you being an unwanted disciple of one of the most evil (Beyond Belief) multiple murders in history calling anyone evil isn't lost on anyone but you.

Right I am off out for a nice vindaloo. You sit in and stew Jackie with your pot noodle and Heat Magazine and dream of Jeremy, who you will never meet. Alone as always.

Note to self - must stop conversing with chavvy old Eleanor Rigby's.  :D

Well looks like another troll is outed.

[grahameb]

Bye Tim dream on !!!!

Your mother must have dropped you as a baby !!

Obviously not from a great height?

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

Well looks like another troll is outed.

Love the way you bypass my post Neil.

[grahameb]

I am posting this on here because Andrea does not accept pm's but it is also a question I would like to ask the open forum.

Hi Andrea. I can only get online here on a Friday usually. Why has vic been banned? I like to hear both sides because I still haven't made my mind up about JB. That is also why I always refer to him as JB in my posts because I don't know if he is innocent or not. A jury found him guilty. I will never refer to him by his first name until he is proven not guilty. I don't think that is ever going to happen. He might be able to introduce evidence which makes his conviction wobble and thereby make it unsafe and make him a free man. I think that is possible because so much of the original evidence was fabricated. I am waffling again! What I am trying to say Andrea is can you accept that JB might be released on "new" evidence" even though he could still actually be guilty

I think perhaps you are asking the wrong person Janet.

[mertol22]

if only a spam control could be in place for these trolls, they remind me of the figures in small soldiers at the end on that tiny boat with archer sailing for gorgon .

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

I think perhaps you are asking the wrong person Janet.

Who should I be asking Grahame?

[JackiePreece]

Keira would give a brilliant run down on the situation

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

Is she online now?

[Nuala]

I am posting this on here because Andrea does not accept Pm's but it is also a question I would like to ask the open forum.

Hi Andrea. I can only get on line here on a Friday usually. Why has Vic been banned? I like to hear both sides because I still haven't made my mind up about JB. That is also why I always refer to him as JB in my posts because I don't know if he is innocent or not. A jury found him guilty. I will never refer to him by his first name until he is pr oven not guilty. I don't think that is ever going to happen. He might be able to introduce evidence which makes his conviction wobble and thereby make it unsafe and make him a free man. I think that is possible because so much of the original evidence was fabricated. I am waffling again! What I am trying to say Andrea is can you accept that JB might be released on "new" evidence" even though he could still actually be guilty

Hi Janet,

Vic and Hartley were banned because they ganged up and harassed Mike with a tirade of offensive posts, some involving personal attacks. Mike hardly ever bans anyone, he is so tolerant. Most forums or forum owners would have banned Vic and Hartley long before Mike did. I believe this has been building up for weeks. Hartley and Vic have pushed their luck time after time, this time they pushed their luck too far and Mike rightly banned them.

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

Hi Janet,

Vic and Hartley were banned because they ganged up and harassed Mike with a tirade of offensive posts, some involving personal attacks. Mike hardly ever bans anyone, he is so tolerant. Most forums or forum owners would have banned Vic and Hartley long before Mike did. I believe this has been building up for weeks. Hartley and Vic have pushed their luck time after time, this time they pushed their luck too far and Mike rightly banned them.

Thanks for the reply. I was going to suggest that maybe some of the post Mike made that seemed a bit eratic were because of his brain tumour and that I am willing to make allowances for. But I know that will be folled by Grahame telling me how inapropriate I am being before ultimately banning me from tis site. Do I think JB is guilty yes. Did he have a fair trial no. If he ever gets out of prison will it be on a technicality? Yes.
I just want to know what really happened that night end of.

[Nuala]

Thanks for the reply. I was going to suggest that maybe some of the post Mike made that seemed a bit eratic were because of his brain tumour and that I am willing to make allowances for. But I know that will be folled by Grahame telling me how inappropriate I am being before ultimately banning me from tis site. Do I think JB is guilty yes. Did he have a fair trial no. If he ever gets out of prison will it be on a technicality? Yes.
I just want to know what really happened that night end of.

They didn't just aim offensive posts at Mike, Janet, they have also made unacceptable remarks about NGB and Grahame. Let's be honest, Hartley has been rude to almost every member of the forum at one time of another. He's broken the forum rules on numerous occasions. I thought Vic was a decent man, and I'm shocked that his recent posts became so offensive.

[tyler]

They didn't just aim offensive posts at Mike, Janet, they have also made unacceptable remarks about NGB and Grahame. Let's be honest, Hartley has been rude to almost every member of the forum at one time of another. He's broken the forum rules on numerous occasions. I thought Vic was a decent man, and I'm shocked that his recent posts became so offensive.

That is interesting,the last part of your post concerning Vic.I believe that he is ultimately a decent man,who unfortunately got led along by Hartley.Now it is easy to see how he has also got led along by the relatives too.If the relatives managed to convince the police of Jeremys alleged guilt,they must be some kind of force to be reckoned with.Hence how they have managed to convince Vic,Hartley,Bob Woof-Woof etc.

[Nuala]

That is interesting,the last part of your post concerning Vic.I believe that he is ultimately a decent man,who unfortunately got led along by Hartley.Now it is easy to see how he has also got led along by the relatives too.If the relatives managed to convince the police of Jeremys alleged guilt,they must be some kind of force to be reckoned with.Hence how they have managed to convince Vic,Hartley,Bob Woof-Woof etc.

I think a lot of this boils down to self interest, Tyler.

[mertol22]

Everything in some form has reason and even in this topic, if you are trying to understand why things went this far all this kicking and screaming is it because  posts have been made which for one way or another are pointing to a completly different chain of events relating to events on and the weeks after the shootings ? for now and looking forward perhaps its time to move on and hopefully  new members will join and no matter what stance they take are able to add to the forum in a positive way, there are still many members as yet to start posting.

[grahameb]

Love the way you bypass my post Neil.

I'm grahame.